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David Hoffman: "The decision to sell my $ETH came from seeing a difficulty in the Ethereum network being market competitive." ETH went from 90%+ smart contract dominance to 60%, and that gap is the difference between "ETH is money" and "ETH is just another L1 asset." What's missing is...

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Ethereum is officially transitioning to a monopoly L2s are finished, $ETH monopolizes smart contract rails In my mental framework, $ETH is a value index of smart contracts. It has network effect (most wallets), economies of scale (60% stablecoins are tokenized on ethereum) and proprietary technology (100% uptime). It's early days to talk about value capture because no token has really pumped because of utility the past 10 years, it's mostly the social value that creates fomo which created the pumps. Ethereum is the symbol the OG crypto anarchist social value, and vitalik.eth and the Ethereum community keep pushing for that. This community can't be replaced with Solana or BNB's community, which is a real moat that Ethereum has. One can argue Bitcoin has similar or more hardcore anarchist community, yes, this is why $BTC is number one and $ETH is number two. But over time I believe Ethereum's upside is far better because smart contracts enable it to scale its community via use cases/Apps like stablecoin and DAOs. Despite Thomas (Tom) Lee (not drummer) FundstratDirect.com buying 5% of $ETH that OG ethos of Ethereum is not going to change to the "enterprise chain" ethos because of the $ETH community and vitalik.eth. $ETH $BMNR

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