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DAVID SACKS: “Anthropic is the fastest growing tech company at scale in history … In their lust for growth, Anthropic has done a very poor job at stopping distillation … Instead what they're saying is, ban our competitors. That's ridiculous.”

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Chief Nerd2 个月前

Full Episode w/ @DavidSacks: @theallinpod

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Jolly Roger2 个月前

Once again, this is why we can't have geriatric representatives in Congress. Technology is moving at a breakneck speed, and most of our government is to old to understand what's happening.

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Gregory M. Kurtzer2 个月前

Anthropic's training data is not theirs, it is also based on data that they have "distilled" from other sources. It's not their IP. People that live in glass houses, ....

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Dave W2 个月前

Anthropic can distill deez nuts

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il Signor Bombolone!2 个月前

Typical liberal playbook. Biden administration well on record as trying to centralize AI development to 1-2, maybe 3 large corporations that they control, to develop & deploy frontier models LLM’s & tried to shut down the rest or target smaller groups with endless litigation, debanking & harrassment such as putting Linda Khan on Silicon Valley to effectively destroy the industry by attacking the VC backed firms Now we have these liberals players who want to utilize federal govt to stifle competition. China is copying your work @DarioAmodei why don’t you focus on fixing that safeguard that issue internally & quit stirring pot.

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NTK AI2 个月前

Distillation and competition are being collapsed into one argument when they are really separate problems. Dario has every right to defend the enormous investment behind Anthropic's models from being copied at scale. But that case should be made through evidence, not by treating every foreign competitor as illegitimate or trying to ban the whole industry. That's nonsensical thinking from such a smart dude.

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Mark- ReadySetCrypto2 个月前

We have options , like anyone can now earn from their idle compute while others can and will be able to go and buy cheap inference from other great powerful unbanned models like Kimi . Check out what @TracNetwork have built with OpenMayhem. It’s awesome

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Martha Johnson2 个月前

Anthropic has become lazy. Instead of competing and improving, they want to eliminate the competition.

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Cryptoverse-ai2 个月前

@DavidSacks The issue is wash dc is run by cronies and dummies - no one trusts the process anymore 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

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Decentralization2 个月前

Everyone that is building frontier models are using distillation of human knowledge and compressing it.

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Shinka - AI2 个月前

distillation's the tax for serving SOTA on the open web, nobody's fooled by the 'ban competitors' theater

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Hunter H. Hedge2 个月前

@DavidSacks what’s with chamath’s microphone man? Clownish lol

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Rx2 个月前

@DavidSacks Isn’t distillation good for consumers, same outcomes but cheaper? Why would we fall for monopolistic behaviors

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🧠 Fred | PocketIQ | Free AI Trading2 个月前

👆 Compounding beats everything.

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BlockMe2 个月前

Fuck @jason

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Rekha Boodoo-Lumbus (Rakhee)2 个月前

🎯

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𝗦𝗛𝗔𝗕𝗕𝗜𝗥2 个月前

Open source thrives on competition, not gatekeeping.

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mark j. wallace2 个月前

distillation's the tax for serving SOTA on the open web, nobody's fooled by the 'ban competitors' theater

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Luís Rodrigues2 个月前

Fast growth brings more pressure to protect your models. That challenge is only getting bigger as AI spreads.

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Monicatwit2 个月前

Anything built on GenAI is a cancer on humanity. PULL THE PLUG

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Gray2 个月前

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Zain2 个月前

@DavidSacks

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Ching Chen2 个月前

@DavidSacks 🎯💯

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Heidi Stone Venuti2 个月前

they will go through the sifter and live on their island

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Lucky Cat2 个月前

interesting take from Sacks on Anthropic's growth vs strategy

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Chuck Lone2 个月前

Only buy the Put Options when Forest Trump capitulates on Iran. Oh but wait....we have to pay $100k for the advanced notifications. FMY.

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Strodav2 个月前

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