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DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: the BEST Boeing benchmark result I’ve seen from an open-source model (by far). ✈️ It ran for hours with /goal. Where other models often stall quickly, it kept improving: inspect, spot a defect, zoom in, diagnose, fix, repeat. The video really shows how strong it is at sustaining... show more

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Victor Mvor 19 Stunden

more details because this is beautiful 🔥

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Victor Mvor 19 Stunden

extremely good, inspect the result here:

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Offscriptvor 18 Stunden

kept improving instead of stalling is the only benchmark that matters now. the rest is one shot theatre

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Soft Axiomvor 12 Stunden

"Until you are 100% satisfied" might be the most important part of the prompt. The model grading its own work is the benchmark now.

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Myravyxvor 16 Stunden

The hard part in a multi-hour run isn't the fixing. It's still being dissatisfied at hour three.

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catmanvor 17 Stunden

hours of /goal is a much harsher test than a one-shot render. what finally made it stop improving: a visual score, a fixed iteration limit, or its own judgment?

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Umar Nasservor 12 Stunden

It seems better than opus 4.8 one right?

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Shesaidmewakeupvor 13 Stunden

Open source running for hours in claude code and still improving. Benches don’t show that.

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John Roodvor 17 Stunden

the thing that separates "keeps improving" from "stalls" isn't raw capability. it's whether the model can still see what it already tried 40 steps back. most stalls are it relitigating a fix it already ruled out because that context fell out of the window.

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nealvor 18 Stunden

The impressive part is the loop, not the “god model” label: inspect → name a defect → fix → verify. That pattern is useful outside 3D work too—give any model explicit checks and a stop condition instead of asking for a one-shot answer.

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OmniWiredvor 14 Stunden

I wonder if it be better on dsh

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Surya Rajendhranvor 19 Stunden

this is a great benchmark, where can I find more details? are there any common trends you’re seeing with how deepseek or open weight models handle 3D vs closed frontier models?

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Victor Mvor 18 Stunden

best way to see other results:

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Chizzydigitalvor 15 Stunden

Next time just use a separate critic agent

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veloXvor 15 Stunden

this Boeing benchmark reminds me of the Red Queen Gödel Machine: continuous self-improvement against a moving target.

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bbzzvor 17 Stunden

what'd it cost?

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Elledyne Labsvor 14 Stunden

was the inspect→fix loop running on the same context window the whole time, or did /goal spawn fresh subagents? curious what context strategy kept it from rotting across hours

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Krish Dasguptavor 15 Stunden

What really is marvellous- the precision shadow. The moment you move the pane around the plane, the direction also specifies the shadow. That’s something !

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Wei佳vor 12 Stunden

What Harness tool are you using?

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Elledyne Labsvor 16 Stunden

the harness did the work, not the model. claude code gave it the loop and deepseek just refused to quit. how much of this is /goal's verifier vs deepseek's stamina?

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اسلیم کلیک هاvor 17 Stunden

Can you please crash it into a building next

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Onur Solmazvor 13 Stunden

did it reach the final version faster than astra before?

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Steffanvor 18 Stunden

Looks like I am going to change harness, I was not really happy with deepseek results in opencode, maybe it’s a harness problem.

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Victor Mvor 12 Stunden

try it and tell me - I get really good results with CC with this setup:

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FoodTruck Benchvor 13 Stunden

DeepSeek 4.1 being this close to GPT-5.5 at this price point is actually illegal 💀

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josipvor 13 Stunden

the impressive part isn't the boeing render, it's that it stayed in the inspect→diagnose→fix loop for hours instead of stalling after the first pretty output. long-horizon models start looking useful when the harness keeps them pointed at the next defect

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Devvor 12 Stunden

bro chinese models r literally cooking the entire ai market rn distillation really leveled up chinese ai to the point it's outperforming everything ngl 😭🔥

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kimodo_cloudvor 18 Stunden

cost ?

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Preyforgevor 14 Stunden

this is the satisfying version of a loop: inspect, diagnose, fix. i still make the deployed path prove the demo; screenshots can be charming little liars.

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neo hodlervor 14 Stunden

Interesting to see that it “ran for hours with /goal” without stalling. Long-horizon loops are where most “SOTA” models still quietly die.

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Ibeshvor 14 Stunden

boeing test is brutal lol. most open models stall after a few fixes, the fact it kept going for hours and kept improving is the real flex

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keetheshvor 15 Stunden

Does it ever break something that was already working?

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东倒西六条vor 15 Stunden

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deepseek v4.1 flash ran all four three.js scenes for $0.15. gemini 3.8 flash needed $1.25 we put the two models on one job: a self-contained html page that renders an animated 3d scene with three.js – a storm at sea, a spiral galaxy, a tornado over farmland, a tesla coil on a dark table. same prompt - calls until all four scenes were usable #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – 6 #2 gemini 3.8 flash – 12 - time #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – 13m 57s #2 gemini 3.8 flash – 32m 02s - cost #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – $0.15 #2 gemini 3.8 flash – $1.25 observations: • gemini blew out the exposure on 4 of 5 first attempts – a white blob where the tesla coil should be. the prompt had a paragraph on exposure. it did not help. • both models overcorrect in the fix loop: "too bright" becomes "almost black". round two is where it lands. same four scenes, 6 calls and $0.15 against 12 calls and $1.25!

deepseek v4.1 flash ran all four three.js scenes for $0.15. gemini 3.8 flash needed $1.25 we put the two models on one job: a self-contained html page that renders an animated 3d scene with three.js – a storm at sea, a spiral galaxy, a tornado over farmland, a tesla coil on a dark table. same prompt - calls until all four scenes were usable #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – 6 #2 gemini 3.8 flash – 12 - time #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – 13m 57s #2 gemini 3.8 flash – 32m 02s - cost #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – $0.15 #2 gemini 3.8 flash – $1.25 observations: • gemini blew out the exposure on 4 of 5 first attempts – a white blob where the tesla coil should be. the prompt had a paragraph on exposure. it did not help. • both models overcorrect in the fix loop: "too bright" becomes "almost black". round two is where it lands. same four scenes, 6 calls and $0.15 against 12 calls and $1.25!

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Sam Altman made the case for open-source harnesses in July. a month later, someone shipped it, and it's more efficient than most managed harnesses. here is the problem it was aimed at: a large share of your agent's token bill is the model rereading things it already read. that isn't the model's doing. the runtime around it decides what goes into every prompt and how often the model gets called. for example, an agent queries a CRM at step four and gets back 400 rows. those rows get piled up in the conversation history. by step nineteen, the model has to read those rows fifteen times unnecessarily, and every token read is billed at input rates. it happened because your harness assembled that prompt on every turn and kept the rows in it. that gives you two levers: how much context the harness carries forward, and how often it calls the model. there are four practical ways to keep the prompt from growing unnecessarily: → load tool schemas on demand. a server with 100 tools doesn't need to put all 100 into every prompt when the agent only calls two. → offload large results to disk. turn a large response into a short preview and a file path instead of replaying the entire result on every turn. → delegate to subagents. let a subagent spend thirty tool calls in its own context and return one summary to the root agent. → run toolchains in code. one script calls three tools, joins the results, and returns a table instead of three turns each dragging a full response. but reducing context is only half the job. you also need to control how often the model gets called. a good harness should avoid unnecessary planning, verification, and reflection when the work can be completed in fewer steps. TrueFoundry's open-source agent harness, TrueForge, is built around both of those controls. it sits between the model and the tools, deciding what goes into every prompt and when another model call is actually needed. it also breaks token usage down across the harness, skills, instructions, tools, and messages. DevRev's Enterprise-Bench is where this gets tested, on multi-step tasks of the kind where an agent pulls records from one system and reconciles them against another. TrueFoundry ran TrueForge there against Claude Managed Agents, both on the same model, and both finished the same number of tasks. the tie is the part that matters, because it means the gap underneath is not a quality tradeoff. TrueForge reached that score on close to a third of the tokens, with roughly 40% fewer trips back to the model. for the same result, that comes out around 2.7x cheaper than Claude Managed Agents. swapping in an open model made it sharper still. TrueForge with GLM-5.2 scored a little higher than either setup above, and the entire benchmark run cost about $3 at list prices. being open source matters beyond the license here. the model underneath can be swapped without rewriting the agent, and the whole thing can run inside your own environment when the data cannot leave it. all of this comes down to the runtime around the model, the context it carries, the tools it exposes, and how many times it goes back to the model. that is what a production harness actually owns. the full task list, the per-run numbers, and the MIT-licensed code are on GitHub: (don't forget to star 🌟) you can read more about the same in the article quoted below. thanks to the TrueForge team for working with me on this one.

Sam Altman made the case for open-source harnesses in July. a month later, someone shipped it, and it's more efficient than most managed harnesses. here is the problem it was aimed at: a large share of your agent's token bill is the model rereading things it already read. that isn't the model's doing. the runtime around it decides what goes into every prompt and how often the model gets called. for example, an agent queries a CRM at step four and gets back 400 rows. those rows get piled up in the conversation history. by step nineteen, the model has to read those rows fifteen times unnecessarily, and every token read is billed at input rates. it happened because your harness assembled that prompt on every turn and kept the rows in it. that gives you two levers: how much context the harness carries forward, and how often it calls the model. there are four practical ways to keep the prompt from growing unnecessarily: → load tool schemas on demand. a server with 100 tools doesn't need to put all 100 into every prompt when the agent only calls two. → offload large results to disk. turn a large response into a short preview and a file path instead of replaying the entire result on every turn. → delegate to subagents. let a subagent spend thirty tool calls in its own context and return one summary to the root agent. → run toolchains in code. one script calls three tools, joins the results, and returns a table instead of three turns each dragging a full response. but reducing context is only half the job. you also need to control how often the model gets called. a good harness should avoid unnecessary planning, verification, and reflection when the work can be completed in fewer steps. TrueFoundry's open-source agent harness, TrueForge, is built around both of those controls. it sits between the model and the tools, deciding what goes into every prompt and when another model call is actually needed. it also breaks token usage down across the harness, skills, instructions, tools, and messages. DevRev's Enterprise-Bench is where this gets tested, on multi-step tasks of the kind where an agent pulls records from one system and reconciles them against another. TrueFoundry ran TrueForge there against Claude Managed Agents, both on the same model, and both finished the same number of tasks. the tie is the part that matters, because it means the gap underneath is not a quality tradeoff. TrueForge reached that score on close to a third of the tokens, with roughly 40% fewer trips back to the model. for the same result, that comes out around 2.7x cheaper than Claude Managed Agents. swapping in an open model made it sharper still. TrueForge with GLM-5.2 scored a little higher than either setup above, and the entire benchmark run cost about $3 at list prices. being open source matters beyond the license here. the model underneath can be swapped without rewriting the agent, and the whole thing can run inside your own environment when the data cannot leave it. all of this comes down to the runtime around the model, the context it carries, the tools it exposes, and how many times it goes back to the model. that is what a production harness actually owns. the full task list, the per-run numbers, and the MIT-licensed code are on GitHub: (don't forget to star 🌟) you can read more about the same in the article quoted below. thanks to the TrueForge team for working with me on this one.

Akshay 🚀

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72 hours in and GPT-5.6 Sol is still running without a single follow-up prompt. The task was to build the most comprehensive map possible of the physical infrastructure powering AI, submarine cables, data centers, power plants, substations and electricity grids. The only thing given was a simple loop: → Find the biggest gap → Research it → Build it → Test it → Publish it → Repeat Most people expected this to stall after a few hours. It didn't. The Mac restarted mid-run and Codex picked up exactly where it left off without losing anything. What this actually proves is that the prompt matters less than the goal. The smarter the model, the more room you need to give it to make its own decisions. Constrain it with steps and you get a worse version of what it could do on its own.

72 hours in and GPT-5.6 Sol is still running without a single follow-up prompt. The task was to build the most comprehensive map possible of the physical infrastructure powering AI, submarine cables, data centers, power plants, substations and electricity grids. The only thing given was a simple loop: → Find the biggest gap → Research it → Build it → Test it → Publish it → Repeat Most people expected this to stall after a few hours. It didn't. The Mac restarted mid-run and Codex picked up exactly where it left off without losing anything. What this actually proves is that the prompt matters less than the goal. The smarter the model, the more room you need to give it to make its own decisions. Constrain it with steps and you get a worse version of what it could do on its own.

0xMarioNawfal

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I gave an AI one instruction: “Build me a playable 3D game from scratch.” Then I let it cook. 👀 I tested Tencent Hy4 preview inside WorkBuddy, and it went way beyond just generating a few snippets of code. It could: → Plan the game structure → Generate the code across files → Create the UI and interactions → Debug problems along the way → Iterate on the project while keeping context That last part is what caught my attention. Hy4 preview is built for these long-horizon tasks, with 770B total parameters, 49B active parameters, and a 1M-token context window. It’s designed for coding agents, game development, tool use, research, and other workflows where the model has to actually do the work, not just answer a prompt. And right now, you can try Hy4 preview for free on WorkBuddy until September 10. If you want to see how far an AI agent can take a real project, try it yourself: See what you can build with it. Tencent AI

I gave an AI one instruction: “Build me a playable 3D game from scratch.” Then I let it cook. 👀 I tested Tencent Hy4 preview inside WorkBuddy, and it went way beyond just generating a few snippets of code. It could: → Plan the game structure → Generate the code across files → Create the UI and interactions → Debug problems along the way → Iterate on the project while keeping context That last part is what caught my attention. Hy4 preview is built for these long-horizon tasks, with 770B total parameters, 49B active parameters, and a 1M-token context window. It’s designed for coding agents, game development, tool use, research, and other workflows where the model has to actually do the work, not just answer a prompt. And right now, you can try Hy4 preview for free on WorkBuddy until September 10. If you want to see how far an AI agent can take a real project, try it yourself: See what you can build with it. Tencent AI

Toha Khan

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