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Destiny thinks Twitch should able to be included as a codefendant in a potential lawsuit brought upon Hasan "If I were to sue Hasan for defamatory speech, I should be able to sue Twitch as well..I think they should be a codefendant..bc in my mind, if they've obviously been...

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Twitch Streamer mischaracterizes her e-begging to her audience while also blaming Donald Trump for not being able to find a job. Also, @Frogan, I am not a socialist, so I shouldn't be the one to pay your medical bills. You should be asking Hasan to pay it, because that's what he believes in. Hasan should set the example for the rest of us capitalists LOL

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Elon Musk: We will not accept an anointed class of journalists who tell us what to think. “What we're not going to do is say that there's some anointed class of journalists who are the special ones who get to tell everyone what they should think. It should be up to the people what they think. And even if an article is completely accurate, comprehensive, and everything, in writing that article, the media is choosing the narrative. They're deciding what to write an article about. So, I'm hopeful that this can be more a case of the public choosing the narrative as opposed to the media choosing the narrative. At least a combination of the media and the public choosing the narrative, and the public getting to weigh in on stories if they think that they should add something to it, or we've got something wrong. And over time, I think if Twitter is the best source of truth, it will succeed. And if we are not the vessels of truth, we will fail.” Interview with the BBC, April 12, 2023

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