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Elon has been a disastrous CEO for both SpaceX and Tesla. He knows nothing about how Wall Street operates—“trust me bro” doesn’t sit well with them. They need solid numbers and evidence you can get there. With Elon’s history of promising Tesla Robotaxi for almost 10 years and broken...

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In 2014, Elon Musk was asked whether he would stay on as the CEO of Tesla, given that he had his plate full with two companies. (Ten years ago, running 2 major companies was seen as a lot for Elon) He said that he would stay for 4 or 5 years, through 2018 - 2019, to see the ramp of the Model 3 through to completion. After Elon and his team successfully ramped the Model 3 to profitability (which by the way everyone also said was impossible), Elon was supposed to leave and choose a new CEO to run Tesla. Instead, we got the revolutionary 2018 compensation plan that retained Elon as CEO for the future by offering him stock options if he could take Tesla to heights that were considered "laughably impossible" by the media at the time. Against all odds, Elon achieved every single goal in the plan, and Tesla hit a $650 billion market cap. And it didn't stop there, as we all know. Elon stayed as CEO long past when his tour of duty was supposed to be over, and made Tesla a global success story. Then courts struck his comp plan down. Most CEOs would probably leave at this point. You offered me stock options so I would stay on as CEO, the plan got invalidated... why am I still dealing with the daily headaches and insane drama of running this company? But Elon is not most CEOs. He cared about his shareholders, and he stayed and made sure their investment was protected. And shareholders have done very well. Tomorrow, at Tesla's 2025 shareholder meeting, we have a chance to retain Elon for the future, make sure he has control of the company — not Wall Street — and right the wrongs of the 2018 plan. Elon kept his end of the deal for us, let's keep up our end of the deal to him. If we don't, we will realize as we face the impossible task of replacing him just what someone like him is worth. That's why I'm voting yes today with every $TSLA share I own. Who else is with me?

Whole Mars Catalog

118,422 次观看 • 9 个月前

I have officially sold 90% of my $TSLA position. I initially bought $400K at $245, and sold a few days ago at $410. My original thesis for the investment was based on the humanoid robot narrative going mainstream, and even though we’re not there yet, The asymmetric upside of holding $TSLA at $410 is too small compared to when it was at $245, mainly for the following reasons: 1. Currently the only way to bet on Elon is by buying $TSLA, and that puts a massive premium on the stock since people will buy at any price to get exposure to Elon, but in as short as a month SpaceX will IPO, so people will have 2 options, and that will inevitably dilute capital allocation 2. $TSLA trades at a 380x trailing P/E, because the market is pricing in Elon being able to release his humanoid robot with minimal competition. However it’s not pricing the competition that could come from China, considering how good they’re getting at copying and producing at scale. Once Elon drops Optimus, China will just buy it and figure out a way to make their own version faster, cheaper and better 3. SpaceX actually has advantages that Tesla doesn’t. It has a better moat since it’s harder for companies to compete in the space industry. They’re making a lot of money from Starlink and the adoption rate is just going up, while Tesla’s revenues are declining and it’s hoping to make a lot of money from the Optimus release Now this doesn’t mean that $TSLA can’t go any higher, but considering how the narrative is playing out, I prefer having cash ready to allocate either to Tesla at a fair valuation, or potentially to SpaceX if it gives a good entry.

Crypto Dan

26,450 次观看 • 6 个月前

When Elon Musk and Tesla let me, and millions of other owners, add our own cars to the Tesla Robotaxi network via a software update, it’s going to be the greatest wealth CREATION in human history. I get it. For the first time ever, a Tesla will become an $ income producing asset bc your Tesla will be able to drive itself while you’re sleeping, working, or even on vacation. This is NOT a sci-fi idea anymore. Elon has been clear for years. The hardware is already in the cars and the thing that will unlock this is going to be software. Here’s a simple version of how it’s going to work imo: 1/ A software update turns your Tesla into a robotaxi 2/ You opt in with one tap in the Tesla app 3/ Your car gives rides when you’re not using it 4/ Tesla takes a cut, you keep the rest 5/ You can pull your car out anytime, you have full control Think Airbnb, but for cars. Now on the $ generation side, this is where it can get a bit wild. Elon has said a high use robotaxi could generate ~$30,000 per year per car, and even more in busy cities. That means, 1/ A car payment pays for itself 2/ A car can become your own business 3/ And for some people, this can allow them to become financially free Elon even said robotaxi earnings should far exceed monthly car payments... this will completely flip how we think about owning a vehicle. A lot of long time Tesla investors call this the “greatest wealth transfer in history”… Elon corrected that and said something important: “Not transfer of wealth, CREATION of wealth. The pie gets much bigger.” And I believe he’s right. Autonomy makes transportation cheaper, safer, and available 24/7. This saves time, reduces accidents, lowers costs for everyone, and unlocks $ trillions of dollars in new economic value that NEVER existed before. Elon has also said: “The day FSD (w/ this Robotaxi feature) goes to wide release will be one of the biggest asset value increases in history.” That will be the day when cars are viewed as an appreciating asset instead of a depreciating asset! The scale is hard to wrap my head around tbh bc: • There are already millions of Teslas on the road • Even a small % opt-in rate creates massive fleets overnight, Waymo is screwed imo with their peanut sized 2,500 fleet • No new factories are needed • No new drivers needed Just pure AI software. Bro… this moment is going to be REALLY big. This could be the first time in human history where regular people like you and me get access to automation and making $ at scale, instead of only the big players and corporations. And when this switch flips, the way we view a car, specifically a Tesla will never look the same again. (FYI, once Elon and Tesla give me the green light, I plan on buying ~25 Teslas outright and put them into the Robotaxi network to show the world exactly what I mean)

Teslaconomics

58,488 次观看 • 7 个月前

Meta just filed SEC documents tying executive pay to a $9 trillion valuation by 2031. $9 TRILLION. The company is worth $1.5 trillion today. That means they need a 500% increase in 5 years. And they're not the only ones playing this game. Tesla shareholders approved a $1 trillion pay package for Elon Musk in November tied to an $8.5 trillion valuation target. Let me be clear about what's happening here: These companies aren't building businesses anymore. They're building stock prices. Look at the actual numbers. Tesla posted its first annual revenue decline in history in 2025. Revenue fell 3%. Net income collapsed 47% year over year to $3.8 billion. Automotive revenue dropped 10%. The stock trades at 327 times trailing earnings. That's not a valuation. More like a hallucination. Musk's compensation requires 20 million vehicles a year, 1 million robotaxis, and 1 million humanoid robots. Tesla delivered roughly 1.8 million cars last year. Meanwhile Meta has incinerated nearly $80 billion in cumulative losses on Reality Labs since late 2020. The metaverse division's revenue doesn't even cover 16% of its operating costs. In 2025 alone, Reality Labs lost $19.2 billion. And stock-based compensation at Meta consumed 96% of the company's free cash flow last year. $42 billion. GONE. Not to shareholders or R&D with measurable returns, but to insiders betting on their own stock price. So here's what both companies are REALLY doing: Step 1: Make outrageous promises about AI, robotaxis, metaverse, humanoid robots. Step 2: Tie executive compensation to market cap targets, not earnings, not revenue, not cash flow. Step 3: Spend billions on unproven bets that may never generate returns. Step 4: Use the promise of future transformation to justify present valuations that have zero relationship to current fundamentals. This is the financialization of hype. In 45 years on Wall Street, I've watched this playbook run over and over. The technology changes. The pitch changes. But the ending doesn't. Stock prices follow earnings. Always have. Always will. And when the gap between the story and the numbers gets this wide, you already know how it ends.

George Noble

279,736 次观看 • 5 个月前