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Erik Vorhees is bringing classic crypto privacy values into AI: Venice enables private access to LLMs like GLM-5, Kimi K2.5 & Grok 4.1 Fast. In a world where “private AI really doesn't exist outside of some small pockets.” Venice is a powerful tool. It's prompts and responses are not...

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Erik Voorhees on Venice and the convergence thesis: "Venice is a private, uncensored version of ChatGPT with crypto ethos baked in." "DIEM token holders get a dollar per day of free compute, zero marginal cost inference for agents." "Cryptocurrency was actually just being built for the AI robots. Humans were always awkward with it. Agents won't be."
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Erik Voorhees on Venice and the convergence thesis: "Venice is a private, uncensored version of ChatGPT with crypto ethos baked in." "DIEM token holders get a dollar per day of free compute, zero marginal cost inference for agents." "Cryptocurrency was actually just being built for the AI robots. Humans were always awkward with it. Agents won't be."

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INTERVIEW - Venice Is Here to Win: How Private AI Takes On OpenAI and Anthropic David Hoffman sits down with Jon ShapeShift and Jesse Proudman to unpack how Venice is taking on OpenAI and Anthropic with private AI. They talk about: - why AI is becoming the biggest data honeypot ever - private Grok access through Venice - unrestricted AI as a consumer wedge - how non-crypto users still feed the $VVV economy - $DIEM, tokenized inference, and AI agents --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 1:12 Why Private AI Matters 3:01 The AI Data Honeypot 6:07 Venice’s Consumer AI Ambition 8:01 Beating the Big AI Labs 10:19 Model Aggregation and Agentic Chat 12:29 Open Source, Closed Source, and Private Grok 17:14 Who Actually Needs Private AI? 21:58 Venice’s User Base 23:53 What Drove Venice’s Recent Growth 27:21 $VVV, $DIEM, and Tokenized Inference 29:00 Where Venice Gets Its Compute 32:17 Bonding Curves and DIEM Monetary Policy 39:14 Real Tokenomics, Not Just a Pie Chart 45:46 AI Agents Need Inference to Exist 52:54 ShapeShift DNA Inside Venice 55:53 Regulation, AI, and Individual Rights
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INTERVIEW - Venice Is Here to Win: How Private AI Takes On OpenAI and Anthropic David Hoffman sits down with Jon ShapeShift and Jesse Proudman to unpack how Venice is taking on OpenAI and Anthropic with private AI. They talk about: - why AI is becoming the biggest data honeypot ever - private Grok access through Venice - unrestricted AI as a consumer wedge - how non-crypto users still feed the $VVV economy - $DIEM, tokenized inference, and AI agents --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 1:12 Why Private AI Matters 3:01 The AI Data Honeypot 6:07 Venice’s Consumer AI Ambition 8:01 Beating the Big AI Labs 10:19 Model Aggregation and Agentic Chat 12:29 Open Source, Closed Source, and Private Grok 17:14 Who Actually Needs Private AI? 21:58 Venice’s User Base 23:53 What Drove Venice’s Recent Growth 27:21 $VVV, $DIEM, and Tokenized Inference 29:00 Where Venice Gets Its Compute 32:17 Bonding Curves and DIEM Monetary Policy 39:14 Real Tokenomics, Not Just a Pie Chart 45:46 AI Agents Need Inference to Exist 52:54 ShapeShift DNA Inside Venice 55:53 Regulation, AI, and Individual Rights

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59,022 просмотров • 1 месяц назад

We're excited to be building on Venice, the leading private AI platform, to solve the harder version of the problem: privacy you can prove. Venice is the only AI platform of its scale built private by default. Prompts are never stored, conversations never leave your device, and no third party (not Venice, not the infrastructure, not anyone) can see what you ask. Inference runs inside sealed hardware enclaves, and every response ships with cryptographic attestation that it stayed private. Cluster is the orchestration and settlement layer on top: routing sensitive workloads to Venice's verified private compute and letting autonomous agents pay per call over x402 on Base. No account, no API keys, no data trail.
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We're excited to be building on Venice, the leading private AI platform, to solve the harder version of the problem: privacy you can prove. Venice is the only AI platform of its scale built private by default. Prompts are never stored, conversations never leave your device, and no third party (not Venice, not the infrastructure, not anyone) can see what you ask. Inference runs inside sealed hardware enclaves, and every response ships with cryptographic attestation that it stayed private. Cluster is the orchestration and settlement layer on top: routing sensitive workloads to Venice's verified private compute and letting autonomous agents pay per call over x402 on Base. No account, no API keys, no data trail.

Cluster Protocol

63,727 просмотров • 10 дней назад

EARLY ACCESS - Venice Is Here to Win: How Private AI Takes On OpenAI and Anthropic Jon ShapeShift says the $VVV flywheel works even if users don’t care about crypto. “Most of our users are actually not crypto people” "some of them even actively dislike crypto and dislike tokens” "they don't care as long as the product itself is good and they can use it" "all of them are contributing downstream to this token economy, regardless"
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EARLY ACCESS - Venice Is Here to Win: How Private AI Takes On OpenAI and Anthropic Jon ShapeShift says the $VVV flywheel works even if users don’t care about crypto. “Most of our users are actually not crypto people” "some of them even actively dislike crypto and dislike tokens” "they don't care as long as the product itself is good and they can use it" "all of them are contributing downstream to this token economy, regardless"

Bankless

27,642 просмотров • 1 месяц назад

Yesterday I visited Venice and met with Traci Park who is city councilor for CD11 in LA. The transformation of Venice Beach from 2021 to now is nothing short of a miracle. Most RVs are gone and zero tents anywhere. LA is a mess of homelessness, but not Venice! TraciParkforLA
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Yesterday I visited Venice and met with Traci Park who is city councilor for CD11 in LA. The transformation of Venice Beach from 2021 to now is nothing short of a miracle. Most RVs are gone and zero tents anywhere. LA is a mess of homelessness, but not Venice! TraciParkforLA

T Wolf 🌁

28,801 просмотров • 9 месяцев назад

INTERVIEW: Why $VVV at $17 is cheap, w/ Yan Liberman If the TAM for inference is ~$200B, what's the TAM for Private Inference? David Hoffman chats with Yan Liberman about - Why Venice is crypto AI’s clearest revenue story - How he values $VVV - How Venice serves agentic inference - Why AI agents need $DIEM [TIMESTAMPS] 0:00 Intro 1:40 Privacy Guarantees Explained 5:01 Who Needs Private Inference? 9:25 A Privacy Use Case 10:19 Venice’s Privacy Tiers 12:31 Growth Surges After New Plans 20:29 Inference Reseller Economics 23:39 Why Revenue Is Hard to Know 28:11 Token Value & Trust 32:07 Erik Voorhees & Alignment 33:52 Venice’s Unique Product Edge 37:34 Adult Content Demand 41:18 Permissionless Agentic Inference 44:56 Bear Cases for Venice 49:12 How to Value VVV 51:46 Is VVV Undervalued? 56:10 Closing & Disclaimers
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INTERVIEW: Why $VVV at $17 is cheap, w/ Yan Liberman If the TAM for inference is ~$200B, what's the TAM for Private Inference? David Hoffman chats with Yan Liberman about - Why Venice is crypto AI’s clearest revenue story - How he values $VVV - How Venice serves agentic inference - Why AI agents need $DIEM [TIMESTAMPS] 0:00 Intro 1:40 Privacy Guarantees Explained 5:01 Who Needs Private Inference? 9:25 A Privacy Use Case 10:19 Venice’s Privacy Tiers 12:31 Growth Surges After New Plans 20:29 Inference Reseller Economics 23:39 Why Revenue Is Hard to Know 28:11 Token Value & Trust 32:07 Erik Voorhees & Alignment 33:52 Venice’s Unique Product Edge 37:34 Adult Content Demand 41:18 Permissionless Agentic Inference 44:56 Bear Cases for Venice 49:12 How to Value VVV 51:46 Is VVV Undervalued? 56:10 Closing & Disclaimers

Bankless

107,407 просмотров • 2 месяцев назад

.Erik Voorhees: It’s actually good, from the Trojan horse perspective, that Bitcoin was traceable enough for traditional institutions to tolerate it. “When Bitcoin came out, everyone called it private, thought of it as private. It was referred to as anonymous in every news story. And in some ways, it is very private and very anonymous. But the truth is that it’s also extremely trackable and traceable. It is not private in reality. And the question is, should it have been from the start? And at first I thought, yes, it should have been more private. And that was a mistake in its design. However, I think if Bitcoin had been anonymous truly from the start, like a Zcash or a Monero, it would have had such antagonism from the state. I don’t know that the state could have snuffed it out, but they would have tried much harder. And I think it’s actually good, from the Trojan horse metaphor perspective, that it was traceable enough that the traditional institutions could tolerate it. They’ve never liked it, but they could at least tolerate it because there is some traceability. And that has allowed Bitcoin to grow. And I think in its shadow, that other crypto assets are actually anonymous is very healthy. The strength of cryptocurrency as a concept in society, I think, is served best when Bitcoin itself is not perfectly private, but other assets are. That is a very difficult thing, I think, for the state to combat. And that decentralization of attributes is really, really crucial. So, yeah, I’m very glad that there are other coins that are private. I want there to be more of them, and I want them to be more popular. And I think it’s okay that Bitcoin itself is not.”
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.Erik Voorhees: It’s actually good, from the Trojan horse perspective, that Bitcoin was traceable enough for traditional institutions to tolerate it. “When Bitcoin came out, everyone called it private, thought of it as private. It was referred to as anonymous in every news story. And in some ways, it is very private and very anonymous. But the truth is that it’s also extremely trackable and traceable. It is not private in reality. And the question is, should it have been from the start? And at first I thought, yes, it should have been more private. And that was a mistake in its design. However, I think if Bitcoin had been anonymous truly from the start, like a Zcash or a Monero, it would have had such antagonism from the state. I don’t know that the state could have snuffed it out, but they would have tried much harder. And I think it’s actually good, from the Trojan horse metaphor perspective, that it was traceable enough that the traditional institutions could tolerate it. They’ve never liked it, but they could at least tolerate it because there is some traceability. And that has allowed Bitcoin to grow. And I think in its shadow, that other crypto assets are actually anonymous is very healthy. The strength of cryptocurrency as a concept in society, I think, is served best when Bitcoin itself is not perfectly private, but other assets are. That is a very difficult thing, I think, for the state to combat. And that decentralization of attributes is really, really crucial. So, yeah, I’m very glad that there are other coins that are private. I want there to be more of them, and I want them to be more popular. And I think it’s okay that Bitcoin itself is not.”

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Ansem shares his thesis on $VVV “Venice AI is essentially a private inference platform… you can access all of the top state-of-the-art models, all the best open source models but through Venice, it doesn’t store any of your information” “They’ve done really well. They have over 2 million users. I think they have 50k daily actives on their app and they’re making money from the subscription” “One of the cool features of Venice that I thought was interesting is they have a second token that’s called DIEM… if you have 1 DIEM, you get to use $1 of compute per day for that 1 DIEM that you have” “It’s a really interesting model. I think it’s honestly attracted a lot of people to stake $VVV. We don’t have a lot of real protocols there in the crypto and AI space that aren’t vapor and are actually doing well”
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Ansem shares his thesis on $VVV “Venice AI is essentially a private inference platform… you can access all of the top state-of-the-art models, all the best open source models but through Venice, it doesn’t store any of your information” “They’ve done really well. They have over 2 million users. I think they have 50k daily actives on their app and they’re making money from the subscription” “One of the cool features of Venice that I thought was interesting is they have a second token that’s called DIEM… if you have 1 DIEM, you get to use $1 of compute per day for that 1 DIEM that you have” “It’s a really interesting model. I think it’s honestly attracted a lot of people to stake $VVV. We don’t have a lot of real protocols there in the crypto and AI space that aren’t vapor and are actually doing well”

Market Bubble

142,486 просмотров • 2 месяцев назад

Venice residents protest Bezos wedding Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez are rumored to be holding their wedding in Venice — with an estimated cost of €10 million. Local authorities may be thrilled, but residents are furious. They argue that such a high-profile event will cause major disruptions, especially with road closures during peak tourist season, The Guardian reports. Around 200 guests are expected, including Kim Kardashian, Leonardo DiCaprio, Oprah Winfrey, and Ivanka Trump. Activists have already put up posters around the city reading “No Space For Bezos” and are demanding that Venice not be turned into a private party for the ultra-rich.
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Venice residents protest Bezos wedding Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez are rumored to be holding their wedding in Venice — with an estimated cost of €10 million. Local authorities may be thrilled, but residents are furious. They argue that such a high-profile event will cause major disruptions, especially with road closures during peak tourist season, The Guardian reports. Around 200 guests are expected, including Kim Kardashian, Leonardo DiCaprio, Oprah Winfrey, and Ivanka Trump. Activists have already put up posters around the city reading “No Space For Bezos” and are demanding that Venice not be turned into a private party for the ultra-rich.

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🇮🇹BILLIONS, BOATS & A BACKLASH: BEZOS' WEDDING IN VENICE Jeff Bezos' $40M 3-day wedding bash in Venice is due to end today, but not even he could buy good weather or public approval. A thunderstorm crashed the kickoff, soaking A-listers like the Kardashians and Oprah as they scrambled to flee under umbrellas. Locals are furious too: a southern Italian caterer in Venice? Blasphemy. Meanwhile, protesters plan a huge demonstration this evening - because nothing says romance like riot police and anti-oligarch chants. Source: GB News
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🇮🇹BILLIONS, BOATS & A BACKLASH: BEZOS' WEDDING IN VENICE Jeff Bezos' $40M 3-day wedding bash in Venice is due to end today, but not even he could buy good weather or public approval. A thunderstorm crashed the kickoff, soaking A-listers like the Kardashians and Oprah as they scrambled to flee under umbrellas. Locals are furious too: a southern Italian caterer in Venice? Blasphemy. Meanwhile, protesters plan a huge demonstration this evening - because nothing says romance like riot police and anti-oligarch chants. Source: GB News

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131,851 просмотров • 1 год назад

"Privacy might feel great when Zcash is up 30%. It doesn't feel great when it's down 30%. We need private stablecoins" Kain on the obvious thing in crypto that nobody has landed yet "I went down the Zcash rabbit hole and the challenge is the core asset is the only one that is private on Zcash. In order to have privacy, you hold Zcash properly shielded. But it's somewhat volatile" "It seems really obvious that we need private stablecoins. Zcash has thought about this, the community has multiple proposals. But no one's really landed it" "Tornado Cash had a USDC pool for a long time. But it's not enough to just have one pool. You need enough for it to actually work and be scalable"
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"Privacy might feel great when Zcash is up 30%. It doesn't feel great when it's down 30%. We need private stablecoins" Kain on the obvious thing in crypto that nobody has landed yet "I went down the Zcash rabbit hole and the challenge is the core asset is the only one that is private on Zcash. In order to have privacy, you hold Zcash properly shielded. But it's somewhat volatile" "It seems really obvious that we need private stablecoins. Zcash has thought about this, the community has multiple proposals. But no one's really landed it" "Tornado Cash had a USDC pool for a long time. But it's not enough to just have one pool. You need enough for it to actually work and be scalable"

Laura Shin

69,679 просмотров • 2 месяцев назад

Introducing OpenVenice — an open-source, customizable frontend for Venice. Your API key stays in your browser, talks directly to Venice. No server, no backend. - Chat, image gen, audio, music, video, embeddings — everything venice offers in one clean UI - Visual workflows — chain models together (vision → LLM → image gen -> video gen). Venice is multimodal so you can build some really powerful workflows - Full control over every model parameter - Runs locally, deploys anywhere — zero infrastructure I'm a $DIEM holder and heavy Venice user. The models are solid and website is great but I kept wanting more freedom with the UX — more control, custom tools, being able to give it access to my local computer, multimodal chaining -- something I could shape to how I actually work. Didn't exist, so I built it. Feel free to fork and make it yours. Open source, MIT licensed.
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Introducing OpenVenice — an open-source, customizable frontend for Venice. Your API key stays in your browser, talks directly to Venice. No server, no backend. - Chat, image gen, audio, music, video, embeddings — everything venice offers in one clean UI - Visual workflows — chain models together (vision → LLM → image gen -> video gen). Venice is multimodal so you can build some really powerful workflows - Full control over every model parameter - Runs locally, deploys anywhere — zero infrastructure I'm a $DIEM holder and heavy Venice user. The models are solid and website is great but I kept wanting more freedom with the UX — more control, custom tools, being able to give it access to my local computer, multimodal chaining -- something I could shape to how I actually work. Didn't exist, so I built it. Feel free to fork and make it yours. Open source, MIT licensed.

nikshep

40,500 просмотров • 4 месяцев назад

The Venice team has been teasing 'Minds' lately, so David Hoffman asks "What are Minds?" Jon Venice: "Minds are custom AI experiences" "We have a subset of really strong power users that understand these models really well. They're really good at chaining these things together in such a way, using system prompts in certain ways, to create a toolset that lets them get a much better output from the same prompt, versus just giving it to a kind of naked model without any of these things. And so we're creating tools for users to create these experiences and then potentially even to monetize them. And we think in many ways this is going to become one of the more popular ways for people to use AI and that there will likely only be a small subset of these kind of power users who kind of become creators, although we're trying to make the tools easy enough for them to create whatever they can and they want. But that a ton of consumers will be very interested in this as kind of our thesis, that they will want to use these custom experiences because they will get a substantially better output."
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The Venice team has been teasing 'Minds' lately, so David Hoffman asks "What are Minds?" Jon Venice: "Minds are custom AI experiences" "We have a subset of really strong power users that understand these models really well. They're really good at chaining these things together in such a way, using system prompts in certain ways, to create a toolset that lets them get a much better output from the same prompt, versus just giving it to a kind of naked model without any of these things. And so we're creating tools for users to create these experiences and then potentially even to monetize them. And we think in many ways this is going to become one of the more popular ways for people to use AI and that there will likely only be a small subset of these kind of power users who kind of become creators, although we're trying to make the tools easy enough for them to create whatever they can and they want. But that a ton of consumers will be very interested in this as kind of our thesis, that they will want to use these custom experiences because they will get a substantially better output."

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12,302 просмотров • 6 дней назад

Ansem explains the thesis behind Dolphin AI “Dolphin is the provider of the uncensored model that Venice uses” “ChatGPT, Claude, all of the big labs have very strict rules on what you can ask the models, they’re censored very heavily” “We’re not in control of what that censorship is and what they’re telling the models not to say” “One of crypto’s core tenets is not having to rely on some centralized entity deciding what you can and cannot do” “They want the technology to be free and open to everyone. Uncensored models are one way crypto is looking at doing that”
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Ansem explains the thesis behind Dolphin AI “Dolphin is the provider of the uncensored model that Venice uses” “ChatGPT, Claude, all of the big labs have very strict rules on what you can ask the models, they’re censored very heavily” “We’re not in control of what that censorship is and what they’re telling the models not to say” “One of crypto’s core tenets is not having to rely on some centralized entity deciding what you can and cannot do” “They want the technology to be free and open to everyone. Uncensored models are one way crypto is looking at doing that”

Market Bubble

20,688 просмотров • 2 месяцев назад

Erik Voorhees on why he built Venice AI on Ethereum “It wasn’t even a question for us. The Ethereum ecosystem is the far more authentic, resilient, and robust ecosystem of all smart contract platforms.” The founder of the privacy-first AI inference platform with 3+ million users continues: “When we launched on Base, it had swiftly become the primary L2 in the ETH world. We were impressed with its growth, so it was the obvious choice for us. But of course we were going to do it in the Ethereum ecosystem.” Source: Paul Barron Network PaulBarron (Jun 2026)
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Erik Voorhees on why he built Venice AI on Ethereum “It wasn’t even a question for us. The Ethereum ecosystem is the far more authentic, resilient, and robust ecosystem of all smart contract platforms.” The founder of the privacy-first AI inference platform with 3+ million users continues: “When we launched on Base, it had swiftly become the primary L2 in the ETH world. We were impressed with its growth, so it was the obvious choice for us. But of course we were going to do it in the Ethereum ecosystem.” Source: Paul Barron Network PaulBarron (Jun 2026)

Etherealize

23,495 просмотров • 1 месяц назад

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EISEN: Today we learned that the private sector is losing jobs and small business is getting hit really hard, and one of the reasons the ADP cites is tariffs. Do you worry about the economic fallout as tariffs really take hold? LUTNICK: No no -- it's not tariffs. The Democrat shutdown hurt numbers. Next year the numbers are going to be fantastic.

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228,345 просмотров • 7 месяцев назад

Ben Horowitz on the infrastructure behind the AI economy: "Crypto is the natural money for AI because it’s internet-native money." "AI is global. Crypto is global." "There needs to be not just a ledger of money, but probably a ledger of truth for AI to really fulfill its potential." "I think people are probably underestimating how crypto and AI work together to form the AI economy." "Networks and computers tend to grow together, and I think that AI is obviously a new kind of computer and crypto is a new kind of network." benahorowitz.eth on Moonshots with Peter H. Diamandis, MD
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Ben Horowitz on the infrastructure behind the AI economy: "Crypto is the natural money for AI because it’s internet-native money." "AI is global. Crypto is global." "There needs to be not just a ledger of money, but probably a ledger of truth for AI to really fulfill its potential." "I think people are probably underestimating how crypto and AI work together to form the AI economy." "Networks and computers tend to grow together, and I think that AI is obviously a new kind of computer and crypto is a new kind of network." benahorowitz.eth on Moonshots with Peter H. Diamandis, MD

a16z

237,441 просмотров • 5 месяцев назад

What the hell is going on with Gold-Flows around the world? — Gold is physically being moved Into other Countries without it’s Citizens knowledge 🔴 MY THOUGHTS: You think this conversation is a coincidence as President Trump and Elon want to audit Fort Knox? ——— “The great lie of my lifetime is that crypto was going to be private and was going to free us from surveillance and control. And that has just not proven true, and no one’s tried really hard to make it true. Which tells you a lot about how much people lie them what the real agenda is, which is control. But good can actually be moved around privately and stored privately…>” Clip Full Show
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What the hell is going on with Gold-Flows around the world? — Gold is physically being moved Into other Countries without it’s Citizens knowledge 🔴 MY THOUGHTS: You think this conversation is a coincidence as President Trump and Elon want to audit Fort Knox? ——— “The great lie of my lifetime is that crypto was going to be private and was going to free us from surveillance and control. And that has just not proven true, and no one’s tried really hard to make it true. Which tells you a lot about how much people lie them what the real agenda is, which is control. But good can actually be moved around privately and stored privately…>” Clip Full Show

MJTruthUltra

19,138 просмотров • 1 год назад

"Pakistan may have a problem with state-owned enterprises, but that's not where the real problem lies. The problem is our private sector. It's incompetent, inefficient, and generally not competitive with the rest of the world. They have really prospered behind the walls of tariffs and trading barriers rather than compete with the world. ...Pakistan's industry is weak because we have incumbent large players who have not allowed government policy to develop in a manner which is competitive. While China may be a communist country, it has one of the most competitive industrial landscapes... ...Our real problem is the private sector, which has never really stood on its two feet and on the back of the so-called infant industry, always relied on protection, subsidy, and government largesse..." My conversation with Dr. Hasan Zafar on how Pakistan resposition its economy.
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"Pakistan may have a problem with state-owned enterprises, but that's not where the real problem lies. The problem is our private sector. It's incompetent, inefficient, and generally not competitive with the rest of the world. They have really prospered behind the walls of tariffs and trading barriers rather than compete with the world. ...Pakistan's industry is weak because we have incumbent large players who have not allowed government policy to develop in a manner which is competitive. While China may be a communist country, it has one of the most competitive industrial landscapes... ...Our real problem is the private sector, which has never really stood on its two feet and on the back of the so-called infant industry, always relied on protection, subsidy, and government largesse..." My conversation with Dr. Hasan Zafar on how Pakistan resposition its economy.

Javed Hassan

43,961 просмотров • 1 год назад