Even though Plume just launched its mainnet in June, it already has $5B assets in the pipeline and over half of all RWA holders in crypto Its cofounder Chris Yin shares on Talking Tokens Podcast how Plume went from a product app to a full chain, why most tokenized... assets fail, and what it takes to make RWAs usable. Timestamps 0:00 – What is Plume Network? 1:32 – Chris’s background: DeFi summer, yield farming, and app-layer insights 2:15 – Why most tokenized assets fail: no usage, no velocity 4:03 – Why Plume had to build its own chain 5:42 – Tokenization isn’t enough — here’s what else matters 8:01 – RWAs as crypto’s biggest opportunity (bigger than all DeFi) 9:33 – Stable yield, composability, and how users interact with assets 12:16 – What makes tokenized assets actually usable 14:00 – Top-down vs bottoms-up tokenization 16:00 – Mineral Vault: onboarded 80K holders in a month 19:12 – Plume’s Phase 2: onboarding non-crypto users 20:30 – Why real traction > flashy launches 22:41 – The real numbers behind RWA growth 25:50 – Plume’s 2025 goal: $1B in clean, onchain RWA value 27:48 – Structured products will unlock the next wave 30:50 – Long-term vision: an onchain BlackRock 32:10 – It’s not about one asset — it’s the full stack 36:36 – Honoring Co-Founder Eugene Chen 39:25 – Final advice: focus long-term, but adapt fastshow more

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