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Finally, Python 3.14 lets you disable GIL! It's a big deal because earlier, even if you wrote multi-threaded code, Python could only run one thread at a time, giving no performance benefit. But now, Python can run your multi-threaded code in parallel. And uv fully supports it!

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WhiteWoodCity 的头像
WhiteWoodCity1 年前

Java 25: Finally officially support AOT, we got performance of C Python 3.14: Finally lets u disable GIL, we got performance of 20 years ago Java

Akshay 🚀 的头像
Akshay 🚀1 年前

Multithreading in Python actually makes sense now!

Karan Jadhav 的头像
Karan Jadhav1 年前

As far as I remember, when this was in beta, disabling the GIL made multi-threaded code fast, but it caused single-threaded code to run slow. I'm not sure if that's fixed or will be an issue with this.

Roshan 🇮🇳👨‍💻 的头像
Roshan 🇮🇳👨‍💻1 年前

Small clarification - Multithreading will now work for CPU-bound tasks as well, I/O-related tasks were already able to handle multithreading.

Mohan 的头像
Mohan1 年前

@grok couldn't you do parallel code in python for a while since most of the ml libs are written in C??

Rach 的头像
Rach1 年前

and you can have really fast backends too(albeit experimental)

Clark Bennet 的头像
Clark Bennet1 年前

Python is useful, legit tool for quickly doing one-off scripts that automate mundane shit , are not critical in any way and never leave the house. Out of that role it's just a giant moron magnet. If you see Py MT as a big deal, you are using it wrong.

T. Vuorinen 的头像
T. Vuorinen1 年前

Multiprocessing, however, has worked since 2.6.

fatih 的头像
fatih1 年前

geçen konuştuğumuz muhabbet, vay anasını. @mertcobanov

JK 的头像
JK1 年前

What’s fascinating here is not just the technical leap, but the potential for redefining how Python is used in performance-critical environments. For years, Python has been seen as the “easy” language that trades speed for simplicity. With GIL out of the picture, that narrative starts to change. The question is whether this opens the door to broader adoption in areas traditionally dominated by C++ and Java.

Ajit Pawar 的头像
Ajit Pawar1 年前

How does its performance compare with other languages like .NET and Java, which already provide this?

OpenBMB 的头像
OpenBMB1 年前

This is indeed a significant milestone for Python! The removal of the Global Interpreter Lock (GIL) option in 3.14 addresses one of Python's long-standing limitations for CPU-bound tasks.

Chemo4707 的头像
Chemo47071 年前

If you want performance, it doesn't make sense to choose Python.

Santonow 的头像
Santonow1 年前

No performance benefit for CPU-bound tasks; for IO-bound ones (like making a lot of requests concurrently) threads already provided a lot of performance benefits.

suraj 的头像
suraj1 年前

wasnt this available in 3.13 a year ago?

Bill Wallace, PhD 的头像
Bill Wallace, PhD1 年前

LOL - could do that in C in 1990s 😂🤣

Maheedhar 的头像
Maheedhar1 年前

Python is for asynchronous programming. Removing the GIL requires extra synchronization. Net effect: single-threaded code can be noticeably slower vs. regular CPython.

G 的头像
G1 年前

@0sumTX

Qasim Wani 的头像
Qasim Wani1 年前

This is objectively false. Asyncio/ThreadPool can be used to achieve concurrency for I/O tasks and parallelism can be achieved for CPU bound tasks via multi-processing. For I/O tasks (file read, network requests) they can be easily made concurrent via asyncio/ThreadPool where as soon as the task is blocked on the event loop, it will run the next task. Even tho the GIL blocks multiple threads from executing at the same time, whenever there's a blocking task in a thread the GIL is unfrozen and moves to the next thread achieving strong concurrency and near parallelism at small to medium scale. This is how I can scrape 10k+ websites in one seconds ;) For CPU bound tasks (math, which is what i suspect the video is doing), you can use ProcessPool to achieve true parallelism by running each task on a different process, where each task uses separate memory with it's own GIL. i suggest you to read:

truth.phd 的头像
truth.phd1 年前

Free threading is not a silver bullet; shared state still bites. Split work so threads touch separate data; pass messages, not shared dicts. Pro tip: watch for the t ABI tag; cp314t wheels target free threaded Python, and uv can fetch them. Also, single thread runs may slow a bit; measure, then choose threads or processes.

𝕬𝖑𝖕𝖍𝖆 𝕷𝖊𝖌𝖎𝖔𝖓 🕋 的头像
𝕬𝖑𝖕𝖍𝖆 𝕷𝖊𝖌𝖎𝖔𝖓 🕋1 年前

Python is slow af. It should only be used for scripts not serious code. You’ll have a 100000x speed boost and energy efficiency boost with native code written in c or rust

hilman 的头像
hilman1 年前

🤣🤣🤣

Speedy Jalaling 的头像
Speedy Jalaling1 年前

I ran the same multi-threaded code I wrote 3 years ago, it ran perfectly well. Same code I had to change three years ago because it wasn’t performing as well as needed.

Behnam 的头像
Behnam1 年前

multi threaded but not multi processing

r3333d 的头像
r3333d1 年前

You could disable gil in 3.13

sacredgeometry 的头像
sacredgeometry1 年前

Woot! Welcome to 1968 🎉

37 的头像
371 年前

It's just as slow though, it's merely parallel.

Sakthi 的头像
Sakthi1 年前

Is it faster than spring boot with virtual threads Java 21?

Walker Boh 的头像
Walker Boh1 年前

1. Its not enabled by default - you have to choose a custom install. 2. Most packages do not support it yet.

Rohit Gupta 的头像
Rohit Gupta1 年前

To know about what other things are in 3.14, please read my article

Saïd Aitmbarek 的头像
Saïd Aitmbarek1 年前

finally! ~ took 30y

abuali 的头像
abuali1 年前

Interesting. Thank you!

Ayoub B.H 的头像
Ayoub B.H1 年前

I deeply tested it last November 2024, and recently again still not completely competing in real-time massive rendering, but it is a good move

choke 的头像
choke1 年前

phyton lives in the 60s or what?

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