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Holistic college admissions? More like hostile and racist. 18-yo prodigy Stanley Zhong gets Google L4 but is rejected by 16 colleges. I sat with his YC-alum dad Nan, who sued UC to crack open the admissions black box. The American Dream demands merit not more racism 👇

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rohanvor 1 Jahr

the fundamental problem is that 20 something fresh out of college social psych majors are supposed to evaluate which CS students are in the top 1% of their class in <5 minutes. impossible problem to solve. the EV (stakes) on missing a qualified applicant is too low. compare that to YC where missing a fund returner matters, you'll see why YC can afford the time of qualified admissions officers.

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Garry Tanvor 1 Jahr

At YC the admissions officers are the highest paid people in the org We are the actual general partners of the partnership

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Burak Yenigunvor 1 Jahr

The real question is why do you still care about those 16 colleges’ admission instead of Google’s?

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AltAznvor 1 Jahr

We need to get the SAT/ACT back for UC admissions so they can’t pull these shenanigans.

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University of Austin (UATX)vor 1 Jahr

Every university should publish its admissions algorithm. We’ll start: IF test_score ≥ threshold (SAT 1460+ | ACT 33+ | CLT 105+) THEN admit = TRUE; ELSE rank_by(test_score, AP/IB_scores, 3_achievements)

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I Can Go To Collegevor 1 Jahr

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Ivan Kiriginvor 1 Jahr

Policies I'd love to see: - Transparent, objective admissions standards - Growing the UC system - Growing majors within UCs that are the most competitive. Take that demand as market signal - Early decision tracks. Nets better applicants, favors demonstrated interest

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Patrick Skinnervor 1 Jahr

The data is glaringly there. It's time we start fully unraveling this mess across the nation. Racial discrimination masked as affirmative action.

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Robert O'Reilly 🤔vor 1 Jahr

One of the many reasons this injustice is so acute for the UC system is that it is a public institution, funded by taxpayers. Arguably, private entities drawing no public funds can be as wackadoodle as they want, but not a public institution. This is an American tragedy.

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Kristophvor 1 Jahr

Doesn’t Stanley’s dad work for Google?

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