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Interesting that in three of my recent conversations with Krishna at Anthropic, Dylan Patel, and Gavin Baker, each said that frontier tokens are capturing the majority of the economic value. Gavin: "An overwhelming amount of the economic returns to AI at the model layer have been at the frontier....

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Gavin Baker Gavin Baker says open source is "awesome" for AI infrastructure names because it shifts the economic value from the frontier labs to the infrastructure, and it is already 80% plus of all tokens processed. "A misconception that a lot of people have is that open source models are somehow bad for AI. They're awesome for the AI infrastructure providers. They just shift economic value from the margins of the frontier labs to the infrastructure." "But I do think there's still a role for these frontier models. And it may be true, to date, frontier tokens are capturing 90% of the economic value, and open source tokens are probably 80% plus of tokens processed, and those ratios may be here to stay." _______ Follow Fireside Alpha for more highlights of the best business and technology conversations.
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Gavin Baker Gavin Baker says open source is "awesome" for AI infrastructure names because it shifts the economic value from the frontier labs to the infrastructure, and it is already 80% plus of all tokens processed. "A misconception that a lot of people have is that open source models are somehow bad for AI. They're awesome for the AI infrastructure providers. They just shift economic value from the margins of the frontier labs to the infrastructure." "But I do think there's still a role for these frontier models. And it may be true, to date, frontier tokens are capturing 90% of the economic value, and open source tokens are probably 80% plus of tokens processed, and those ratios may be here to stay." _______ Follow Fireside Alpha for more highlights of the best business and technology conversations.

Fireside Alpha

162,832 次观看 • 2 个月前

Gavin Baker says open source AI actually makes closed models more valuable "Open source makes frontier tokens more valuable. If you have a 250 IQ intellect that can orchestrate these open source 150 IQ intellects, that makes the 250 IQ intellect more valuable because it can farm out tasks." "If we're going to use the Manhattan Project analogy, everybody talks about Richard Feynman. But they had Oppenheimer and effectively 30 Nobel laureates. But they needed 2,000 physicists who were top 10,000 in the world." "Having more affordable intelligence actually makes the frontier even more valuable. A very plausible outcome is one in which frontier tokens are 65 to 85% of the economic value. Open source tokens are like 80% of the volume. And that's good for everyone. And everyone wins."
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Gavin Baker says open source AI actually makes closed models more valuable "Open source makes frontier tokens more valuable. If you have a 250 IQ intellect that can orchestrate these open source 150 IQ intellects, that makes the 250 IQ intellect more valuable because it can farm out tasks." "If we're going to use the Manhattan Project analogy, everybody talks about Richard Feynman. But they had Oppenheimer and effectively 30 Nobel laureates. But they needed 2,000 physicists who were top 10,000 in the world." "Having more affordable intelligence actually makes the frontier even more valuable. A very plausible outcome is one in which frontier tokens are 65 to 85% of the economic value. Open source tokens are like 80% of the volume. And that's good for everyone. And everyone wins."

dnap

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"You need frontier products in order to have frontier models and for people to feel the magic of frontier models." Full conversation with Dianne Penn (Head of Product for Research and Labs Anthropic):
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"You need frontier products in order to have frontier models and for people to feel the magic of frontier models." Full conversation with Dianne Penn (Head of Product for Research and Labs Anthropic):

Lenny Rachitsky

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Baseten Head of AI Model Training Charlie O'Neill says the future is many specialized LLMs dedicated to specific tasks, with bigger labs deployed on the frontiers of areas like science and math: "People are thinking about intelligence capabilities in the wrong way. People are thinking about intelligence relativistically. They say, 'OK, the open-source gap is like 6 months behind closed-source, and GLM 5.3 is as good as Opus 4.8,' or whatever." "The best way to think about what models can do for you, and for the world, is in an absolute sense." "So for any given task that you want to do with an LLM, there's some intelligence threshold where below that you can't do the task, and above that you have very diminishing returns to more intelligence on the task." "So when you think about it that way, the game of LLMs over the last 5 years has been, 'OK, we have these things we want to do with them. Closed source hits it first... but open-source can eventually do that task. And then for many reasons, once you have the base level of intelligence required to do it, you probably do want to swap to open-source." "It's not really about the [frontier lab] God model being better. Like, if I'm filing a tax return, there is a limit to how much intelligence I need to do that particular thing." "So I think the world is going to look like — frontier closed-source labs are going to continue to push the frontier. You do want to use the most intelligent model. You have very inelastic demand for intelligence when you're doing frontier science or frontier math." "But for a lot of the economically valuable things, it looks a lot like, 'I'm a Cursor, or I'm one of these big companies who are realizing I can't just be a wrapper anymore. I've been through the life cycle of building a product that people love. And I should be using that information to make my model better at the things that I care about, and not at anything else.'"
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Baseten Head of AI Model Training Charlie O'Neill says the future is many specialized LLMs dedicated to specific tasks, with bigger labs deployed on the frontiers of areas like science and math: "People are thinking about intelligence capabilities in the wrong way. People are thinking about intelligence relativistically. They say, 'OK, the open-source gap is like 6 months behind closed-source, and GLM 5.3 is as good as Opus 4.8,' or whatever." "The best way to think about what models can do for you, and for the world, is in an absolute sense." "So for any given task that you want to do with an LLM, there's some intelligence threshold where below that you can't do the task, and above that you have very diminishing returns to more intelligence on the task." "So when you think about it that way, the game of LLMs over the last 5 years has been, 'OK, we have these things we want to do with them. Closed source hits it first... but open-source can eventually do that task. And then for many reasons, once you have the base level of intelligence required to do it, you probably do want to swap to open-source." "It's not really about the [frontier lab] God model being better. Like, if I'm filing a tax return, there is a limit to how much intelligence I need to do that particular thing." "So I think the world is going to look like — frontier closed-source labs are going to continue to push the frontier. You do want to use the most intelligent model. You have very inelastic demand for intelligence when you're doing frontier science or frontier math." "But for a lot of the economically valuable things, it looks a lot like, 'I'm a Cursor, or I'm one of these big companies who are realizing I can't just be a wrapper anymore. I've been through the life cycle of building a product that people love. And I should be using that information to make my model better at the things that I care about, and not at anything else.'"

TBPN

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Fascinating to hear how openly Krishna talked about the trade-offs around how Anthropic allocates compute: "If you buy too much compute, you go out of business. If you buy too little, you can't serve your customers and you're not at the frontier. Same thing." "There's a level of compute for model development we will not go below, even if it means it's harder to serve customers." "If we said to our employees, you can't use our models anymore, we could serve billions of dollars of revenue with that compute." "But we want to take a long-term view [because] the returns to frontier intelligence are extremely high, especially in enterprise."
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Fascinating to hear how openly Krishna talked about the trade-offs around how Anthropic allocates compute: "If you buy too much compute, you go out of business. If you buy too little, you can't serve your customers and you're not at the frontier. Same thing." "There's a level of compute for model development we will not go below, even if it means it's harder to serve customers." "If we said to our employees, you can't use our models anymore, we could serve billions of dollars of revenue with that compute." "But we want to take a long-term view [because] the returns to frontier intelligence are extremely high, especially in enterprise."

Patrick OShaughnessy

83,688 次观看 • 4 个月前

#WATCH | Bengaluru, Karnataka: Co-founder, Sarvam AI, Pratyush Kumar says, "... Let me begin with what really is the mission of Sarvam. Many of you know us as a company, but it's important for us to tell you how we approach things. There are three things worth saying. Firstly, we are building at the frontier. AI is one of those technologies that is not only financially lucrative to build, but is also at the pinnacle of human engineering and insight. That pinnacle is moving much faster than in other generations of technology. That's why being at the frontier, at the very edge, becomes so significant. Everything that we do at Sarvam is about being at the frontier, building it, defining it, keeping pace with it, and pushing it further. Our first commitment is to have an innovation-led organisation that is building the frontier here in India..."
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#WATCH | Bengaluru, Karnataka: Co-founder, Sarvam AI, Pratyush Kumar says, "... Let me begin with what really is the mission of Sarvam. Many of you know us as a company, but it's important for us to tell you how we approach things. There are three things worth saying. Firstly, we are building at the frontier. AI is one of those technologies that is not only financially lucrative to build, but is also at the pinnacle of human engineering and insight. That pinnacle is moving much faster than in other generations of technology. That's why being at the frontier, at the very edge, becomes so significant. Everything that we do at Sarvam is about being at the frontier, building it, defining it, keeping pace with it, and pushing it further. Our first commitment is to have an innovation-led organisation that is building the frontier here in India..."

ANI

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Palantir CTO Shyam Sankar says Chinese open source models pose a "threat to American Prosperity": "These Chinese open source models are really the result of distillation attacks." "Most of this is just stolen American IP from frontier labs, and I think the frontier labs should do more to protect that IP, and that's in their own economic interest." "The gravest threat to us is not homicide, it's suicide." "It's an inability to turn these tokens into economic value and generate American prosperity for it." "You see that with the proposed moratorium in New York on data centers. Turning our back on AI would be as consequential a mistake as turning our back on the atom in the '70s." "It's just the beginning, but we're starting to see a burgeoning US open model ecosystem forming." "NVIDIA's Nemotron models are very good." "I think you're going to see in the next month a slate of announcements of other American companies, non-frontier labs, neo labs, who are putting out open weight models that companies are going to be able to cheaply fine-tune and capture their own alpha in weights they control." Via Bloomberg
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Palantir CTO Shyam Sankar says Chinese open source models pose a "threat to American Prosperity": "These Chinese open source models are really the result of distillation attacks." "Most of this is just stolen American IP from frontier labs, and I think the frontier labs should do more to protect that IP, and that's in their own economic interest." "The gravest threat to us is not homicide, it's suicide." "It's an inability to turn these tokens into economic value and generate American prosperity for it." "You see that with the proposed moratorium in New York on data centers. Turning our back on AI would be as consequential a mistake as turning our back on the atom in the '70s." "It's just the beginning, but we're starting to see a burgeoning US open model ecosystem forming." "NVIDIA's Nemotron models are very good." "I think you're going to see in the next month a slate of announcements of other American companies, non-frontier labs, neo labs, who are putting out open weight models that companies are going to be able to cheaply fine-tune and capture their own alpha in weights they control." Via Bloomberg

Jawwwn

181,054 次观看 • 2 个月前

Jason Calacanis: Anthropic, OpenAI and others are trying to kill OpenClaw Why? Because an open source agent platform is an existential threat to frontier model companies. @jason: “ People are going to say I'm a conspiracy theorist, but the number one goal, I believe, in the large language model, frontier model space, is to kill (OpenClaw). This is a giant movement to stop it, because this is the equivalent of having an open source Android-like player in the market, and that could be incredibly disruptive. Because, I believe, open source is going to win the day on the large language models and take 90% of the token usage, and I think the entire frontier model space could be undercut by open source. And I think they realize that SLMs, the smaller language models that are verticalized now, that will run on desktops and laptops and are even starting to run on the top ones, that is their biggest competitive threat, and I hope it happens.”
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Jason Calacanis: Anthropic, OpenAI and others are trying to kill OpenClaw Why? Because an open source agent platform is an existential threat to frontier model companies. @jason: “ People are going to say I'm a conspiracy theorist, but the number one goal, I believe, in the large language model, frontier model space, is to kill (OpenClaw). This is a giant movement to stop it, because this is the equivalent of having an open source Android-like player in the market, and that could be incredibly disruptive. Because, I believe, open source is going to win the day on the large language models and take 90% of the token usage, and I think the entire frontier model space could be undercut by open source. And I think they realize that SLMs, the smaller language models that are verticalized now, that will run on desktops and laptops and are even starting to run on the top ones, that is their biggest competitive threat, and I hope it happens.”

The All-In Podcast

64,677 次观看 • 5 个月前

SITUATION EXPLAINED: 70% of frontier model queries could run locally for free. clem 🤗, co-founder and CEO of Hugging Face: "There was an interesting study from Stanford published last year showing that 70% of the queries that people ask to ChatGPT could be accurately answered locally on your laptop. For free." "Most of the AI workloads that people do today with frontier models could be done by models that are cheaper, faster, more customizable, more controllable. And they don't do it because frankly it's a pain to pick the right model." "You're subsidized so you don't have to care because you have your subscription, so you route everything to Einstein. 'Hey Einstein, what's the weather today?'" "In normal life, he would be like, 'I'm not answering your silly question.' But because it's AI and subsidized by the AI labs, all the questions are getting routed to Einstein versus in an ideal world you have different models that are more specialized and better at answering your questions in different domains." "It's possible that routing is gonna redistribute a lot of the value capture from frontier models to a more long tail of models. It's like AI maturing... we are in the first phase where it's very simple, everyone using just one giant model. Now we're moving to the second phase."
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SITUATION EXPLAINED: 70% of frontier model queries could run locally for free. clem 🤗, co-founder and CEO of Hugging Face: "There was an interesting study from Stanford published last year showing that 70% of the queries that people ask to ChatGPT could be accurately answered locally on your laptop. For free." "Most of the AI workloads that people do today with frontier models could be done by models that are cheaper, faster, more customizable, more controllable. And they don't do it because frankly it's a pain to pick the right model." "You're subsidized so you don't have to care because you have your subscription, so you route everything to Einstein. 'Hey Einstein, what's the weather today?'" "In normal life, he would be like, 'I'm not answering your silly question.' But because it's AI and subsidized by the AI labs, all the questions are getting routed to Einstein versus in an ideal world you have different models that are more specialized and better at answering your questions in different domains." "It's possible that routing is gonna redistribute a lot of the value capture from frontier models to a more long tail of models. It's like AI maturing... we are in the first phase where it's very simple, everyone using just one giant model. Now we're moving to the second phase."

MTS

50,185 次观看 • 3 个月前

$GOOG Koray Kavukcuoglu says he is 100% certain Google DeepMind will get back to the frontier and that nothing else is more important "To put it very bluntly, there's nothing other than being at the frontier that is important for us. Yeah, that's it. All our goals, all our focus is always about that." "And when we are making decisions, when we are making prioritizations in terms of ideas, in terms of what to do and what goals we should follow, it's all about being at the frontier." "And I'm a hundred percent certain that we will be at the frontier." " We have an amazing team. I have so much trust in the team. There's like a great amount of creativity and dedication in the team, and being part of Google, we have amazing, amazing resources available to us. We have the whole full stack that we can, and we are able to optimize to be able to achieve our goals." ________ For a deeper look at Gemini 4 progression across multiple Google exec interviews:
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$GOOG Koray Kavukcuoglu says he is 100% certain Google DeepMind will get back to the frontier and that nothing else is more important "To put it very bluntly, there's nothing other than being at the frontier that is important for us. Yeah, that's it. All our goals, all our focus is always about that." "And when we are making decisions, when we are making prioritizations in terms of ideas, in terms of what to do and what goals we should follow, it's all about being at the frontier." "And I'm a hundred percent certain that we will be at the frontier." " We have an amazing team. I have so much trust in the team. There's like a great amount of creativity and dedication in the team, and being part of Google, we have amazing, amazing resources available to us. We have the whole full stack that we can, and we are able to optimize to be able to achieve our goals." ________ For a deeper look at Gemini 4 progression across multiple Google exec interviews:

Fireside Alpha

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After co-inventing ChatGPT, I kept asking myself: why have superhuman chat models not led to AGI? I’ve spent the last 2 years in stealth building a new way to train models (RLCD), and a new type of frontier AI model that we are releasing today: Jev • 20-200x faster • 40-400x cheaper (w/ output tokens free) • Frontier composable intelligence optimized for decisions AFAICT the shortest path to AI-based economic revolution
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After co-inventing ChatGPT, I kept asking myself: why have superhuman chat models not led to AGI? I’ve spent the last 2 years in stealth building a new way to train models (RLCD), and a new type of frontier AI model that we are releasing today: Jev • 20-200x faster • 40-400x cheaper (w/ output tokens free) • Frontier composable intelligence optimized for decisions AFAICT the shortest path to AI-based economic revolution

Diogo Almeida

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Chamath: Frontier AI Leaders “Created a Total F*cking Mess” Short-sighted fearmongering and immaturity from frontier AI leaders has created deep mistrust, threatening AI’s potential as an open engine of economic mobility. That mistrust gives hyperscalers the chance to position themselves as trusted gatekeepers, using KYC, audit trails, and compliance infrastructure to turn AI into an oligopoly. Chamath Palihapitiya on the All-In Pod: “I think the leaders of the frontier labs leave a lot to be desired. I think what we're seeing is a consistent pattern of evasiveness and immaturity, and I think that does a huge disservice to the entire movement of AI. The key to a vibrant life is rooted in economic mobility, and I think AI is the grand leveler. It is the thing that can enable everyone to have unique amounts of economic mobility because they are unencumbered to figure out what their upper bound is. And against that backdrop, we have to live in this constant doomerism, hype cycle, naivety, and I think it holds us back. How does it hold us back? Tactically, number one, it creates mistrust. I think that Silicon Valley was already decaying in the prestige that it held in American society. We built important things. Then we veered away from that, and we started building less important things. And now we're at a point where we've potentially started to rebuild important things again, but we have this veneer of negativity and mistrust that are created in large part because we just cannot get our sh*t together. And the leaders of the frontier labs are public enemy number one. Number two, I think what it creates, which I think is bad, but what it creates is an incredible opportunity for the hyperscalers. And the very simple opportunity is to convince governments all around the world, not just America, that they should be the gatekeeper. A: You can't trust these guys. B: These models are all over the place. C: Let us be the ones that provision them to the world. We will wrap it in KYC. I've been now talking about KYC for a while, right? Who are these customers? Do they have identification? Why are they allowed to run these models? What are they prompting? Let's keep them so that there's an audit trail. All of these things are going to become issues. The Frontier Lab folks made it an issue because of how they've handled all of this up until now. And what does that create? Now that creates an oligopoly for AI, the most powerful economically leveling instrument we've ever seen in the hands of maybe a handful of hyperscalers, who by the way, would make an incredibly compelling argument, and they would be right. And the only counterfactual to it would be, ‘Well, trust us, guys, it should actually be much more open and in a far more distributed environment.’ Can you imagine the cost and the complexity if you ask the neoscaler to build the same robust KYC or the same VPC infrastructure that Amazon and Microsoft and Google have spent decades investing trillions of dollars in? It's an impossibility, Jason. So you can take all of those datacenters off the map. You can take all of the neoscaler market off the map. All of this was preventable. So instead of a diverse, robust, open ecosystem giving a tool that is the fundamental unlock for humans, we are now going to debate gatekeeping and duopoly versus oligopoly. They have created a total f*cking mess, and it's a shame.”
3:26

Chamath: Frontier AI Leaders “Created a Total F*cking Mess” Short-sighted fearmongering and immaturity from frontier AI leaders has created deep mistrust, threatening AI’s potential as an open engine of economic mobility. That mistrust gives hyperscalers the chance to position themselves as trusted gatekeepers, using KYC, audit trails, and compliance infrastructure to turn AI into an oligopoly. Chamath Palihapitiya on the All-In Pod: “I think the leaders of the frontier labs leave a lot to be desired. I think what we're seeing is a consistent pattern of evasiveness and immaturity, and I think that does a huge disservice to the entire movement of AI. The key to a vibrant life is rooted in economic mobility, and I think AI is the grand leveler. It is the thing that can enable everyone to have unique amounts of economic mobility because they are unencumbered to figure out what their upper bound is. And against that backdrop, we have to live in this constant doomerism, hype cycle, naivety, and I think it holds us back. How does it hold us back? Tactically, number one, it creates mistrust. I think that Silicon Valley was already decaying in the prestige that it held in American society. We built important things. Then we veered away from that, and we started building less important things. And now we're at a point where we've potentially started to rebuild important things again, but we have this veneer of negativity and mistrust that are created in large part because we just cannot get our sh*t together. And the leaders of the frontier labs are public enemy number one. Number two, I think what it creates, which I think is bad, but what it creates is an incredible opportunity for the hyperscalers. And the very simple opportunity is to convince governments all around the world, not just America, that they should be the gatekeeper. A: You can't trust these guys. B: These models are all over the place. C: Let us be the ones that provision them to the world. We will wrap it in KYC. I've been now talking about KYC for a while, right? Who are these customers? Do they have identification? Why are they allowed to run these models? What are they prompting? Let's keep them so that there's an audit trail. All of these things are going to become issues. The Frontier Lab folks made it an issue because of how they've handled all of this up until now. And what does that create? Now that creates an oligopoly for AI, the most powerful economically leveling instrument we've ever seen in the hands of maybe a handful of hyperscalers, who by the way, would make an incredibly compelling argument, and they would be right. And the only counterfactual to it would be, ‘Well, trust us, guys, it should actually be much more open and in a far more distributed environment.’ Can you imagine the cost and the complexity if you ask the neoscaler to build the same robust KYC or the same VPC infrastructure that Amazon and Microsoft and Google have spent decades investing trillions of dollars in? It's an impossibility, Jason. So you can take all of those datacenters off the map. You can take all of the neoscaler market off the map. All of this was preventable. So instead of a diverse, robust, open ecosystem giving a tool that is the fundamental unlock for humans, we are now going to debate gatekeeping and duopoly versus oligopoly. They have created a total f*cking mess, and it's a shame.”

The All-In Podcast

142,516 次观看 • 3 个月前

Jensen says Open Source can be MORE expensive for enterprises, Brad Gerstner explains why: Brad Gerstner: “Over the last two weeks, everybody's been saying that the Chinese have caught up, that open source tokens have caught up in intelligence, that they're much cheaper, etc. And Elon comes out and says, ‘Not so fast. We're entering the singularity, and the frontier models are way further ahead than people think.’ I believe that to be true. And then Jensen came out this week and said, ‘Closed models are actually cheaper if you don't have to build it for yourself, the training costs, and a lot of expertise to fine-tune, and maintain, and guardrail, and keep it safe. So he's basically making the argument that not only are the frontier models further ahead, but that the cost differential between the two is not what everybody's making it out to be, which I think explains why (closed models) continue to run away with it on the revenue side of the equation. For the vast majority of use cases, I think token consumption is going up for the open source guys, while share of economics is going up for the frontier labs. I think that's what we want to see.” $NVDA
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Jensen says Open Source can be MORE expensive for enterprises, Brad Gerstner explains why: Brad Gerstner: “Over the last two weeks, everybody's been saying that the Chinese have caught up, that open source tokens have caught up in intelligence, that they're much cheaper, etc. And Elon comes out and says, ‘Not so fast. We're entering the singularity, and the frontier models are way further ahead than people think.’ I believe that to be true. And then Jensen came out this week and said, ‘Closed models are actually cheaper if you don't have to build it for yourself, the training costs, and a lot of expertise to fine-tune, and maintain, and guardrail, and keep it safe. So he's basically making the argument that not only are the frontier models further ahead, but that the cost differential between the two is not what everybody's making it out to be, which I think explains why (closed models) continue to run away with it on the revenue side of the equation. For the vast majority of use cases, I think token consumption is going up for the open source guys, while share of economics is going up for the frontier labs. I think that's what we want to see.” $NVDA

The All-In Podcast

62,394 次观看 • 1 个月前

Gavin Baker says the future for the world's biggest companies is open models and private context: "I think the future is an ensemble of models. There's a Pareto curve. No one model is going to be the best at everything." "For the global 1,000 biggest companies, you're going to take whatever the best open-source model is. I think probably in the very near future, that's going to be an Nvidia model." "Everybody says 'Well, in a world where open-source wins, who funds the training?' Chip companies can fund the training." "It's trivial to do a $50 to $100 billion training run for Jensen, but I do think you're going to see American open-source led by Nvidia get really close to the frontier." "Sharing your own enterprise context, that's truly your IP, that's truly the value of your company, the context embedded in all of your data, sharing that with a frontier lab may be hazardous for your financial health." "I think what you'll see these companies do is they'll have their own model on their data, and it will work with one or two other frontier models, checking each other... I think that feels like a very likely future to me." Gavin Baker David George
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Gavin Baker says the future for the world's biggest companies is open models and private context: "I think the future is an ensemble of models. There's a Pareto curve. No one model is going to be the best at everything." "For the global 1,000 biggest companies, you're going to take whatever the best open-source model is. I think probably in the very near future, that's going to be an Nvidia model." "Everybody says 'Well, in a world where open-source wins, who funds the training?' Chip companies can fund the training." "It's trivial to do a $50 to $100 billion training run for Jensen, but I do think you're going to see American open-source led by Nvidia get really close to the frontier." "Sharing your own enterprise context, that's truly your IP, that's truly the value of your company, the context embedded in all of your data, sharing that with a frontier lab may be hazardous for your financial health." "I think what you'll see these companies do is they'll have their own model on their data, and it will work with one or two other frontier models, checking each other... I think that feels like a very likely future to me." Gavin Baker David George

a16z

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Today we are announcing Corma, and our $60M seed round led by Sequoia Capital. Corma is building foundation models toward superintelligence for defensive cybersecurity. We do that because general AI is becoming exponentially more capable in offensive security, while it hasn't been able to improve at the same rate in cyber defense - creating an inherent imbalance between attackers and defenders that otherwise cannot be addressed. Recent events have shown that building frontier AI models for defensive cybersecurity is one of the crucial unsolved problems of the AI age - and solving it is the generational mission Corma was founded on. Our foundation model has already far surpassed every general-purpose frontier model on defensive cybersecurity tasks, and we are committed to remaining the frontier of defensive cybersecurity intelligence. Corma is already protecting Fortune 100 companies and some of the world's most important organizations, across healthcare, finance, critical infrastructure, retail, and more. This is just the beginning, as we see it as our calling to protect every organization in the world that needs frontier defense. We are grateful to our partners Shaun Maguire and Sonya Huang 🐥 at Sequoia Capital , Vinod Khosla at Khosla Ventures , Dan Rose at COATUE , and Lia Weiner-Tsur at Netz Capital, who believed in our ability to lead the intelligence race in cybersecurity and make sure the defenders always win.
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Today we are announcing Corma, and our $60M seed round led by Sequoia Capital. Corma is building foundation models toward superintelligence for defensive cybersecurity. We do that because general AI is becoming exponentially more capable in offensive security, while it hasn't been able to improve at the same rate in cyber defense - creating an inherent imbalance between attackers and defenders that otherwise cannot be addressed. Recent events have shown that building frontier AI models for defensive cybersecurity is one of the crucial unsolved problems of the AI age - and solving it is the generational mission Corma was founded on. Our foundation model has already far surpassed every general-purpose frontier model on defensive cybersecurity tasks, and we are committed to remaining the frontier of defensive cybersecurity intelligence. Corma is already protecting Fortune 100 companies and some of the world's most important organizations, across healthcare, finance, critical infrastructure, retail, and more. This is just the beginning, as we see it as our calling to protect every organization in the world that needs frontier defense. We are grateful to our partners Shaun Maguire and Sonya Huang 🐥 at Sequoia Capital , Vinod Khosla at Khosla Ventures , Dan Rose at COATUE , and Lia Weiner-Tsur at Netz Capital, who believed in our ability to lead the intelligence race in cybersecurity and make sure the defenders always win.

Alon Pluda

303,326 次观看 • 1 个月前

.Shyam Sankar says Palantir was able to make Nvidia's Nemotron Ultra model "better than frontier": "I literally almost felt gaslit when, within 24 hours of getting Nemotron up with no post-training, this is vanilla Nemotron Ultra, it did better than frontier." "If you just looked at the numbers, you would say, 'It's nowhere near the Frontier. That shouldn't even be possible.'" "But of course, the benchmarks are wrong. I mean, the benchmarks are right for what the benchmark's measuring, but that's not my business. Those are not the tasks my customers had that they were trying to solve."
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.Shyam Sankar says Palantir was able to make Nvidia's Nemotron Ultra model "better than frontier": "I literally almost felt gaslit when, within 24 hours of getting Nemotron up with no post-training, this is vanilla Nemotron Ultra, it did better than frontier." "If you just looked at the numbers, you would say, 'It's nowhere near the Frontier. That shouldn't even be possible.'" "But of course, the benchmarks are wrong. I mean, the benchmarks are right for what the benchmark's measuring, but that's not my business. Those are not the tasks my customers had that they were trying to solve."

Jawwwn

372,621 次观看 • 2 个月前

As AI labs race to train and deploy new frontier models, existing models become more affordable with better tokenomics. ✨ "Everybody's trying to get to the next frontier. And every time they get to the next frontier, the last generation AI tokens, the cost starts to decline about a factor of 10x every year," said NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang in a recent keynote. Model optimization techniques such as speculative decoding and multi-token prediction, combined with inference serving platforms like NVIDIA Dynamo on NVIDIA Blackwell NVL72 systems, enable AI factories to boost throughput by 10x with one-tenth of the cost per token. Learn more about AI factory tokenomics ➡️
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As AI labs race to train and deploy new frontier models, existing models become more affordable with better tokenomics. ✨ "Everybody's trying to get to the next frontier. And every time they get to the next frontier, the last generation AI tokens, the cost starts to decline about a factor of 10x every year," said NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang in a recent keynote. Model optimization techniques such as speculative decoding and multi-token prediction, combined with inference serving platforms like NVIDIA Dynamo on NVIDIA Blackwell NVL72 systems, enable AI factories to boost throughput by 10x with one-tenth of the cost per token. Learn more about AI factory tokenomics ➡️

NVIDIA AI

16,053 次观看 • 8 个月前

Hacktron founder s1r1us on why frontier models are still far ahead of open models for real-world hacking: "The frontier models are insanely capable. There's a huge gap. You don't even want to use Kimi K3 when you have access to GPT 5.6." "We can't really use Opus 5 anymore. Every time there's a new model release, you kind of don't want to work with the previous model." "Open models, we don't really use them. It's incredibly hard to hand hold them to do the exploitation. They're not yet there." Hacktron AI Harsh Jaiswal
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Hacktron founder s1r1us on why frontier models are still far ahead of open models for real-world hacking: "The frontier models are insanely capable. There's a huge gap. You don't even want to use Kimi K3 when you have access to GPT 5.6." "We can't really use Opus 5 anymore. Every time there's a new model release, you kind of don't want to work with the previous model." "Open models, we don't really use them. It's incredibly hard to hand hold them to do the exploitation. They're not yet there." Hacktron AI Harsh Jaiswal

MTS

15,156 次观看 • 14 天前

David Sacks says companies are trapped paying OpenAI & Anthropic because they can't figure out how to use open source models "I think enterprise CTOs would like to shift their token consumption to cheaper models for the obvious reason that it would be more efficient. They are seeing compute costs or token costs skyrocket right now, so everyone's trying to figure this out." "You also have the AI sovereignty issue that Alex Karp talked about. They're worried about giving up the secret sauce or the alpha in their business to a frontier lab that may one day be competing with them. "The problem is, I think in most cases, they don't have the technical ability to do it. Coinbase figured out how to do it. DoorDash figured out how to do it. They built a token routing system that allows them to send frontier tasks to frontier models and non frontier tasks to more mundane models. But I don't think your average enterprise has the technical capability to do that." "This is why the share of wallet of closed models, it actually increased. I think that open source went from 19% last year to 11% this year. So open source as a share of enterprise spending is actually decreasing." "I don't think that means usage is decreasing. I think usage is skyrocketing. It also may be the case that because the whole point of using an open model is you just pay for the compute costs, you don't have to pay a lab, so it may be that it's hard to measure that usage in terms of spend." "But nonetheless, anyone who's saying that these closed models are going to lose or are somehow losing, you're just not seeing it in the data."
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David Sacks says companies are trapped paying OpenAI & Anthropic because they can't figure out how to use open source models "I think enterprise CTOs would like to shift their token consumption to cheaper models for the obvious reason that it would be more efficient. They are seeing compute costs or token costs skyrocket right now, so everyone's trying to figure this out." "You also have the AI sovereignty issue that Alex Karp talked about. They're worried about giving up the secret sauce or the alpha in their business to a frontier lab that may one day be competing with them. "The problem is, I think in most cases, they don't have the technical ability to do it. Coinbase figured out how to do it. DoorDash figured out how to do it. They built a token routing system that allows them to send frontier tasks to frontier models and non frontier tasks to more mundane models. But I don't think your average enterprise has the technical capability to do that." "This is why the share of wallet of closed models, it actually increased. I think that open source went from 19% last year to 11% this year. So open source as a share of enterprise spending is actually decreasing." "I don't think that means usage is decreasing. I think usage is skyrocketing. It also may be the case that because the whole point of using an open model is you just pay for the compute costs, you don't have to pay a lab, so it may be that it's hard to measure that usage in terms of spend." "But nonetheless, anyone who's saying that these closed models are going to lose or are somehow losing, you're just not seeing it in the data."

dnap

110,354 次观看 • 2 个月前

.L3Harris says Palantir helped them beat frontier AI models in less than 2 days, at 95% lower cost: "When we fine-tuned open source models trained on our own data, we were able to outperform the frontier models in less than 48 hours." "The cost of our fine-tuned open source model was 95% lower than the frontier models we were using." "AI is a commodity. It's all about the data. We view our data as a corporate asset. It's our unique hard-earned knowledge." "We believe American defense companies should not be a vassal for frontier AI labs, handing over our data and institutional knowledge, hoping to rent back the intelligence it creates." " We own the model, we own the compute, we own the advantage."
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.L3Harris says Palantir helped them beat frontier AI models in less than 2 days, at 95% lower cost: "When we fine-tuned open source models trained on our own data, we were able to outperform the frontier models in less than 48 hours." "The cost of our fine-tuned open source model was 95% lower than the frontier models we were using." "AI is a commodity. It's all about the data. We view our data as a corporate asset. It's our unique hard-earned knowledge." "We believe American defense companies should not be a vassal for frontier AI labs, handing over our data and institutional knowledge, hoping to rent back the intelligence it creates." " We own the model, we own the compute, we own the advantage."

Jawwwn

1,105,076 次观看 • 22 天前