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Is true agreement found in objective fields alone? This explores how philosophical and religious debates often become mere assertions, lacking reasoned argument. Discover the essence of genuine consensus. #wordwardebate #Philosophy #Debate #Logic #Truth #Reason Follow Word War Debate on Rumble:

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Ben Briggs21 hours ago

How’s all that agreement working out in string theory?

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marcosmfr21 hours ago

You couldn't even understand what was in question in the debate. If you really read on philosophy what Jay was bringing to the table would be easily recognizable, but by what was displayed in this debate I suspect you don't read any philosophy and you're also incapable of understanding it.

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David Silveira18 hours ago

Looks like your social media team didn't understand the argument either. 🤦

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Rick Cabeza14 hours ago

You laughably believe reason itself is material and refuse to engage in metaphysics while using metaphysical language. The justification for reason from a materialist worldview was in question and your response was reciting a secular genesis account as a demonstration of your adherence to atheist dogma.

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Wesley Corbett 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿19 hours ago

This was not one of your stronger arguments.

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Mello16 hours ago

Appealing to concensus is a fallacy mate. Logic 101 oof

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