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It’s always impossible… until it is done. Pearl Research Labs

63,316 просмотров • 1 месяц назад •via X (Twitter)

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Фото профиля Altcoinist
Altcoinist1 месяц назад

@prlnet 👀

Фото профиля ⏢brianbreslow
⏢brianbreslow1 месяц назад

@prlnet Keep up the great work guys

Фото профиля 800.HL
800.HL1 месяц назад

@komargodski @prlnet It always seems impossible until it’s done

Фото профиля SrM3ta
SrM3ta1 месяц назад

@prlnet pEARLY

Фото профиля cryptic
cryptic1 месяц назад

@prlnet 👀

Фото профиля botblastcap
botblastcap1 месяц назад

@prlnet impearlsible

Фото профиля Evan Van Ness 🧉
Evan Van Ness 🧉1 месяц назад

@prlnet Pearlifying the world

Фото профиля Ozzie G
Ozzie G1 месяц назад

@RibbitCapital @prlnet Gribbit 🐸🫡

Фото профиля theCeramist
theCeramist1 месяц назад

@prlnet Gribbit 🐸🌁

Фото профиля phonanta
phonanta1 месяц назад

@prlnet @colasniec_

Фото профиля theoristalgo ™️ | ⓝ
theoristalgo ™️ | ⓝ1 месяц назад

@evan_van_ness @prlnet Zero

Фото профиля Lelouch.eth
Lelouch.eth1 месяц назад

@prlnet Not wrong just early

Фото профиля kalyug ¶
kalyug ¶1 месяц назад

@prlnet 🐐

Фото профиля Galois1900
Galois19001 месяц назад

@prlnet Since miners are primarily using garbage matmuls to mine how is it less “wasteful” than BTC? The PoW part (including the original Blake3 commitment) is independent of the original matmul anyway.

Фото профиля Omri Weinstein
Omri Weinstein1 месяц назад

The only way to make PoW truly useful (so even frontier labs can run inference on it), is to let the *miner itself* pick the input matrices. While this indeed comes with the drawback that useless miners can mine the network, the economic incentive to do so with Pearl’s (FP) protocol is zero: AI miners produce ¶PRL at ~0$ marginal cost, so garbage mining is inherently discouraged.. If you don’t believe it, let’s speak in a year and you’ll see ❤️

Фото профиля 123
1231 месяц назад

My understanding is that the paper’s security proof basically treats hashing as a fixed unit of work and still allows an attacker some constant factor advantage over an honest miner. It also explicitly leaves reuse or amortization across multiple attempts unanalyzed, which seems to be exactly the kind of optimization @galois1900 is talking about. Then there’s the hardware side. Your own 70B benchmark looks like the GPUs are only using roughly a third of their available math throughput during inference. So even if they’re genuinely serving AI workloads, there may still be a lot of spare compute available to run extra useless matmuls in parallel. So I’m trying to understand two things. In the FP version, what actually puts a hard bound on that attacker advantage? And what prevents miners from filling otherwise idle GPU capacity with junk work until that junk ends up dominating the network’s hashrate, even on machines that are legitimately running AI?

Фото профиля Galois1900
Galois19001 месяц назад

@WeinsteinOmri @prlnet 1/n That is part of what I brought up, yes The optimal strategy is to use a garbage matmul (start with all 0s) and minor edits (flip a 0 to 1) for the same block No field ops or reads needed. Once you Blake3 commit the first, each successive Blake3 commit is dirt cheap

Фото профиля Galois1900
Galois19001 месяц назад

@WeinsteinOmri @prlnet 2/n Blake3’s tree structure is great for edits Even with a sequential hash like Blake2 you can still hash edits faster than unrelated strings using internal states But Blake3 makes the asymmetry worse

Фото профиля Galois1900
Galois19001 месяц назад

@WeinsteinOmri @prlnet 3/n for the next block you can use the same matmuls again It’s not as if there is anything like a nullifier set (like ZCash) preventing the same matmul being used again And even a nullifier set is highly unlikely to be a fix

Фото профиля Galois1900
Galois19001 месяц назад

@WeinsteinOmri @prlnet 4/n I said this a few times already but the 2:1 slogan glosses over the initial Blake3 commitment cost, which is not “already paid for” Although this cost is small compared to the post-commit PoW computation, a sane miner will optimize everywhere

Фото профиля Ruqo
Ruqo1 месяц назад

@prlnet The funny part is, doubters remain consistent… even when the impossible starts becoming possible. I’m so pearlish $PRL

Фото профиля SlabBot.hl
SlabBot.hl1 месяц назад

@prlnet So early - good work guys. You changed the world. And they don't even know it yet. pearl-2:native

Фото профиля Chudzinski
Chudzinski1 месяц назад

@prlnet chudzinski approves.

Фото профиля Adrian Phan
Adrian Phan1 месяц назад

@prlnet Very good video explanation. These kinds of simple videos/visuals will speed up PRL understanding and acceptance

Фото профиля Crypto Katze 🐸
Crypto Katze 🐸1 месяц назад

@prlnet 🐸

Фото профиля Miroku
Miroku1 месяц назад

@prlnet LFG!

Фото профиля ED
ED1 месяц назад

@prlnet @TheMartinlGuyYT

Фото профиля EggSlonkeЯ🦇🃏
EggSlonkeЯ🦇🃏1 месяц назад

@prlnet 🐸🐸🐸

Фото профиля bliquidc.hl 🌊
bliquidc.hl 🌊1 месяц назад

@komargodski @prlnet Pearlification

Фото профиля akura
akura1 месяц назад

@prlnet ¶

Фото профиля Keith Sweat
Keith Sweat1 месяц назад

@prlnet i finally get ts

Фото профиля 123
1231 месяц назад

@prlnet is there an actual plan/timeline for a marketplace layer that ties rewards to real paid compute demand, or is it still just a "future direction" with nothing concrete?

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