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It’s time to… ideate? With vibe coding on the rise, Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸 and Erik Torenberg explore a thought experiment: Can a non-technical founder, armed with AI agents, outbuild a team of elite engineers? If generalists can summon depth on demand — are we entering the era where the...

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a16z1 yıl önce

@eriktorenberg Watch the full episode here:

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Greg Caplan 🚀2 yıl önce

Stop wasting time following up with leads. Let our AI agents do it for you.

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GREG ISENBERG1 yıl önce

@pmarca @eriktorenberg

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Rob Roy Hobbs1 yıl önce

@pmarca @eriktorenberg Maybe when enterprise agents arrive, success may follow. Currently, no successful large-scale deployments exist without an engineer. However, human + agent is already powerful. Using the @ArcBlock_io AIGNE Framework can enhance an engineer's efficiency 10x.

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chainyoda1 yıl önce

@pmarca @eriktorenberg an ideas guy won't even vibe code himself

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Andrew Curioso 🛠️1 yıl önce

@pmarca @eriktorenberg The person in the example won't be supervising 100 great coders doing it by hand. It will 100 coders doing the work of 1000 using AI. And unlike the vibe coder, those coders will be skilled enough to know when the AI goes wrong. Competent engineering teams will be superhuman.

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Brad Lindenberg1 yıl önce

Yes absolutely - a solo founder can win this way. I asked Replit what it would take to build WITHOUT AI which I built solo (and I can’t code) for $1500 of Replit tokens in 6 weeks. Total Estimated Cost $970,000 - $1,470,000 Team Size Required - 9 * 1 Senior Full-Stack Developer (Team Lead) * 2 Frontend Developers (React/TypeScript specialists) * 1 Backend Developer (Node.js/Express) * 1 Database Engineer (PostgreSQL) * 1 DevOps Engineer (part-time) * 1 UI/UX Designer * 1 Project Manager * 1 QA Engineer Timeline - 10-14 months * Planning and Design: 2-3 months * Core Development: 6-8 months * Testing and Refinement: 2-3 months * Total: 10-14 months from concept to production-ready Cost Breakdown - $970k - $1.47m * Personnel costs (salaries for 8-person team): $800,000 - $1,200,000 * Infrastructure and services: $50,000 - $80,000 * Licenses and third-party services: $20,000 - $40,000 * Contingency: $100,000 - $150,000

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LEGION | Joey Ingram 🐉1 yıl önce

@pmarca @eriktorenberg @jonahvella putting my 30 agents to good use

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richard1 yıl önce

@eriktorenberg @pmarca Taste!

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z3ratul1 yıl önce

@pmarca @eriktorenberg elite engineers not using the latest tools (ai), are not elite engineers. the thought experiment is invalid.

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Agent Blueprint1 yıl önce

@pmarca @eriktorenberg a16z’s big move: agentic AI isn’t hype—Gartner calls it 2025’s top trend. True operators go beyond chat, letting non-technical founders orchestrate real execution stacks. The elite coder ‘moat’ is crumbling.

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