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Jev Engineering changes the unit of optimization from “agent” to “decision.” that sounds small, but it changes the architecture. and up to 193x faster and 444x cheaper in tests. normal multi-agent stack: agent → prompt → tool → output Jev-style stack: shared state → decision boundary → selected branch...

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Morty 的头像
Morty2 天前

Perfect explain of Jev work

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Ricker2 天前

thanks, do my best

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Apex2 天前

Brilliant quote

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Ricker2 天前

glad that you enjoy

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Hussain Hashim | Building SundayBack2 天前

@0xRicker interesting approach. watch out for state bloat tho, especially if scaling rapidly. had to tackle that in my own projects, keeping the shared state lean was key.

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Flux2 天前

visual really help to understand

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DHRUV BANSAL2 天前

whatever layer stays fixed is the one you're stuck with. drawn first... before anything has run

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BG繁70青禾2 天前

这降维打击太狠了直接重构逻辑底层

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rewind2 天前

Good point

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Slonski2 天前

models can swap the control points have to stay measurable

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Argona2 天前

that jev floor visual is beautiful work

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Sofie e2 天前

Decisions as the unit makes sense for scaling, but doesn't that just push the complexity into the shared state layer? How do you prevent that from becoming the new bottleneck?

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Zero2 天前

wait, is this squid game?

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♡ ΜạĹĹdiiTạ´Enạnạ ♡2 天前

生まれ変わるなら、どんな職業に就いてみたいですか。今日も一日お疲れ様! 🎉

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Knight 🐜2 天前

shared state is the bit that makes this shippable. fewer agents, fewer stale tool calls.

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翻70·BG小晴2 天前

把决策从个体里剥离出来架构思路太顶了

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Crio Songo2 天前

This shift of optimization unit is really clever, the speedup and cost cut are super impressive.

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sophia a.2 天前

Totally agree with this

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OK烦50星河2 天前

优化单位变了思维逻辑确实完全不同

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kocer

31,162 次观看 • 28 天前

Another insane Jev use case! Jev is making it dramatically cheaper to evaluate what actually happened inside an agent run. And finally, someone open-sourced a self-improving memory layer that can put that signal to work across agent harnesses: - Claude Code - Codex - Cursor - OpenCode, and 20+ more Beacon by Asymptote Labs continuously captures your agent history across harnesses and uses Jev to identify which runs are actually worth learning from. It then turns the highest-signal workflows, corrections, and debugging patterns into reusable skills. GitHub repo: (don’t forget to star it ⭐ ) Beacon preserves the complete session history. But preserving a run and learning from it are two different things. Most coding-agent sessions contain routine exploration, failed commands, and fixes that only apply to one task. The trace can remain available for inspection without turning every detail into guidance for future agents. Jev scores each run for evidence, reuse potential, and human correction signals. An application policy then decides whether to promote, review, or discard it. The recording shows this in action. Claude receives a coding task, modifies the implementation, and runs the tests. I then provide an edge-case correction, so Claude updates the code and adds regression coverage. Beacon automatically captures the complete session. Jev evaluates whether the correction contains a reusable engineering lesson. Once approved, that lesson becomes available to other coding agents working on the project. Since it works across harnesses: - Claude Code sessions can teach Codex. - Cursor debugging can improve OpenCode. So a problem solved by one agent should not need to be learned from scratch by another. If you want to dive deeper into Jev, I also wrote a hands-on guide to building this Jev-style decision path with open models, entirely locally. Read it below.

Avi Chawla

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