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Jordan Peterson drops a mind-bender: Atheism kills science itself. "With the death of God, many other things die... one of the things that dies when God dies is science—and no one expected that." Why? Science isn't neutral—it's built on unprovable religious-like axioms: - Truth exists - Truth is understandable...

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Jordan Peterson made a profound point on Chris Williamson’s podcast. When God dies, a lot of unexpected things die with Him, including science. Science isn’t some purely neutral, secular tool. It rests on deeply religious assumptions: that truth exists, that it’s knowable, that pursuing it is good, and that the universe makes sense. These aren’t scientific claims, they’re metaphysical, rooted in a religious worldview. The universities themselves grew out of monasteries. Without that deeper foundation, science eventually stops being about truth and becomes just another tool for power, ideology, or convenience. You lose the reason to be honest when the data gets inconvenient. Do you think science can survive long-term without any belief in objective truth or a higher moral order?
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Jordan Peterson made a profound point on Chris Williamson’s podcast. When God dies, a lot of unexpected things die with Him, including science. Science isn’t some purely neutral, secular tool. It rests on deeply religious assumptions: that truth exists, that it’s knowable, that pursuing it is good, and that the universe makes sense. These aren’t scientific claims, they’re metaphysical, rooted in a religious worldview. The universities themselves grew out of monasteries. Without that deeper foundation, science eventually stops being about truth and becomes just another tool for power, ideology, or convenience. You lose the reason to be honest when the data gets inconvenient. Do you think science can survive long-term without any belief in objective truth or a higher moral order?

Camus

267,783 просмотров • 1 месяц назад

Nobel laureate, Sir Peter Medawar, pointed out that the idea that science is the only way to truth is unworthy of science itself. Science deals with the 'what' and the 'how' but it is easy to see science cannot deal with the 'why' of purpose. Pt 3/7: Do science and faith mix?
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Nobel laureate, Sir Peter Medawar, pointed out that the idea that science is the only way to truth is unworthy of science itself. Science deals with the 'what' and the 'how' but it is easy to see science cannot deal with the 'why' of purpose. Pt 3/7: Do science and faith mix?

Prof John Lennox

22,657 просмотров • 1 год назад

Oxford professor John Lennox in an interview with Jordan Peterson in 2023 explained his view that there is no conflict between science and Christianity: "I never saw the tension between Christianity and science because very early on as a teenager I was introduced to the writings of a scientist who was a Christian who drew my attention to something Alfred North Whitehead wrote, and it was really put in much simpler language by C.S. Lewis when he wrote 'Men became scientific because they expected law in nature, and they expected law in nature because they believed in a Lawgiver.' And so, very early on, and I was fascinated by the idea, that actually modern science is a legacy of the biblical worldview, and therefore, it's no accident that the pioneers—Galileo, Kepler, Newton, Maxwell, and so on—were believers in God. And as you pointed out, it underpins the tradition that lies behind the great universities of the world that the doctrine of Creation was actually the belief, the underlying presupposition, that allowed people to do science. So I've come over my life to the conclusion that science and the biblical worldview sit very comfortably together, but it's science and atheism that do not sit comfortably together."
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Oxford professor John Lennox in an interview with Jordan Peterson in 2023 explained his view that there is no conflict between science and Christianity: "I never saw the tension between Christianity and science because very early on as a teenager I was introduced to the writings of a scientist who was a Christian who drew my attention to something Alfred North Whitehead wrote, and it was really put in much simpler language by C.S. Lewis when he wrote 'Men became scientific because they expected law in nature, and they expected law in nature because they believed in a Lawgiver.' And so, very early on, and I was fascinated by the idea, that actually modern science is a legacy of the biblical worldview, and therefore, it's no accident that the pioneers—Galileo, Kepler, Newton, Maxwell, and so on—were believers in God. And as you pointed out, it underpins the tradition that lies behind the great universities of the world that the doctrine of Creation was actually the belief, the underlying presupposition, that allowed people to do science. So I've come over my life to the conclusion that science and the biblical worldview sit very comfortably together, but it's science and atheism that do not sit comfortably together."

Melissa the Hopeful🏠Homemaker

137,165 просмотров • 4 месяцев назад

Two elite MIT professors—Daniel Hastings (Aeronautics & Astronautics) and Troy Van Voorhis (Chemistry)—share how cutting-edge science deepens their faith in God. Hastings: "There is a God who created the universe... a loving God who seeks a relationship with us and gives us free will to choose him or not. Our purpose is found in being in relationship with him." Van Voorhis: "The order and structure of natural laws suggests a God who ordained them. The astonishing complexity of living things suggests an architect who cares... Studying the natural sciences lets me learn a little about what God has done—and come to understand a little of what He is like: much bigger, grander, more awesome and majestic than I imagined." In the heart of one of the world's top scientific institutions, faith and discovery aren't at war—they fuel each other. Science revealing God, or God revealing science? What resonates most with you?
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Two elite MIT professors—Daniel Hastings (Aeronautics & Astronautics) and Troy Van Voorhis (Chemistry)—share how cutting-edge science deepens their faith in God. Hastings: "There is a God who created the universe... a loving God who seeks a relationship with us and gives us free will to choose him or not. Our purpose is found in being in relationship with him." Van Voorhis: "The order and structure of natural laws suggests a God who ordained them. The astonishing complexity of living things suggests an architect who cares... Studying the natural sciences lets me learn a little about what God has done—and come to understand a little of what He is like: much bigger, grander, more awesome and majestic than I imagined." In the heart of one of the world's top scientific institutions, faith and discovery aren't at war—they fuel each other. Science revealing God, or God revealing science? What resonates most with you?

Camus

71,864 просмотров • 4 месяцев назад

In a world and industry full of TERRIBLE people, Chris Pratt is one of the good ones. I applaud this man's love for God and his faith. "God is real!" "God Loves you!" "God wants the best for you. Believe that because I do." "Learn to pray! It is so good for your soul." We need more Chris Pratt's in this world!
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In a world and industry full of TERRIBLE people, Chris Pratt is one of the good ones. I applaud this man's love for God and his faith. "God is real!" "God Loves you!" "God wants the best for you. Believe that because I do." "Learn to pray! It is so good for your soul." We need more Chris Pratt's in this world!

AmericanPapaBear™

363,961 просмотров • 7 месяцев назад

RFK Jr. and JD Vance agree that real science means questioning everything — even established science. RFK Jr: “Over the Royal Society in London, which is the oldest scientific society in the world and the most prestigious… it says question everything.” “That's what science is.” “It's recognizing that convention is often wrong, and that the people who make advances on science almost 100% of the time are people who are willing to challenge orthodoxies.” JD Vance: “That's absolutely right.”
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RFK Jr. and JD Vance agree that real science means questioning everything — even established science. RFK Jr: “Over the Royal Society in London, which is the oldest scientific society in the world and the most prestigious… it says question everything.” “That's what science is.” “It's recognizing that convention is often wrong, and that the people who make advances on science almost 100% of the time are people who are willing to challenge orthodoxies.” JD Vance: “That's absolutely right.”

End Tribalism in Politics

13,261 просмотров • 8 месяцев назад

Dr. Brian Hooker just delivered a powerful reminder! Real science never demands blind trust — it demands constant questioning. “You do not trust the science.” “We test the science.” “Settled science is a misnomer.” “The science is never settled.” “Nobody can proclaim that they are the science.” “Think of what a pathetic world we would live in if bloodletting was settled science and we stopped right there.” “We have so many of these advances because people dare ask a question.” “A question is a gift.”
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Dr. Brian Hooker just delivered a powerful reminder! Real science never demands blind trust — it demands constant questioning. “You do not trust the science.” “We test the science.” “Settled science is a misnomer.” “The science is never settled.” “Nobody can proclaim that they are the science.” “Think of what a pathetic world we would live in if bloodletting was settled science and we stopped right there.” “We have so many of these advances because people dare ask a question.” “A question is a gift.”

Children’s Health Defense

17,075 просмотров • 9 месяцев назад

HISTORIC: President Trump just signed an executive order to codify gold-standard science into U.S. government policy This is a massive win for the MAHA movement—and a crushing blow to Fauci-era mandates and the climate alarmist junk science that’s shaped national policy for decades. From the Oval Office, White House Staff Secretary Will Scharf read the order aloud: “This executive order is entitled ‘Restoring Gold-Standard Science.’” “One of the issues we’ve had in recent decades is that government policy has been made on the back of junk science—scientific studies and findings that included conflicts of interest or scientific misconduct.” The order does one thing clearly: put truth back at the center of policymaking. “The purpose of this executive order is to re-center policymaking around gold-standard science—scientific efforts that follow appropriate methods and don’t include conflicts of interest.” And it forces transparency across the board: “To ensure that when departments and agencies rely on scientific studies, to promulgate rules, to promulgate regulations, that the science that they’re relying on is highly reliable and available to the public.” The days of captured science are over.
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HISTORIC: President Trump just signed an executive order to codify gold-standard science into U.S. government policy This is a massive win for the MAHA movement—and a crushing blow to Fauci-era mandates and the climate alarmist junk science that’s shaped national policy for decades. From the Oval Office, White House Staff Secretary Will Scharf read the order aloud: “This executive order is entitled ‘Restoring Gold-Standard Science.’” “One of the issues we’ve had in recent decades is that government policy has been made on the back of junk science—scientific studies and findings that included conflicts of interest or scientific misconduct.” The order does one thing clearly: put truth back at the center of policymaking. “The purpose of this executive order is to re-center policymaking around gold-standard science—scientific efforts that follow appropriate methods and don’t include conflicts of interest.” And it forces transparency across the board: “To ensure that when departments and agencies rely on scientific studies, to promulgate rules, to promulgate regulations, that the science that they’re relying on is highly reliable and available to the public.” The days of captured science are over.

The Vigilant Fox 🦊

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Faith is not wishful thinking. Faith is confidence rooted in evidence. Hebrews 11 reminds us that faith is "the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." When we look at the Word of God, we find page after page of evidence that God answers prayer, heals the broken, comforts the hurting, and provides for His people. The same God who delivered generations before us has not changed. His promises remain true, and His power remains available to those who believe. In moments of uncertainty, our faith is strengthened when we remember what God has already done. No matter what challenges surround us, our future is in the hands of God. Those hands have carried His people through every trial and every season of adversity. There is hope for tomorrow, healing for today, and a breakthrough for those who trust Him. Faith is not merely believing that God can act - it is believing that God will act. As you face today's challenges, stand firmly on the promises of God's Word. Reach out in faith, believe His promises, and give Him the opportunity to prove once again that He is the Almighty God.
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Faith is not wishful thinking. Faith is confidence rooted in evidence. Hebrews 11 reminds us that faith is "the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." When we look at the Word of God, we find page after page of evidence that God answers prayer, heals the broken, comforts the hurting, and provides for His people. The same God who delivered generations before us has not changed. His promises remain true, and His power remains available to those who believe. In moments of uncertainty, our faith is strengthened when we remember what God has already done. No matter what challenges surround us, our future is in the hands of God. Those hands have carried His people through every trial and every season of adversity. There is hope for tomorrow, healing for today, and a breakthrough for those who trust Him. Faith is not merely believing that God can act - it is believing that God will act. As you face today's challenges, stand firmly on the promises of God's Word. Reach out in faith, believe His promises, and give Him the opportunity to prove once again that He is the Almighty God.

Pastor John Hagee

10,058 просмотров • 1 месяц назад

ALLIE B. STUCKEY: “Now who determines truth? Who arbitrates righteousness versus wrongdoing? Only the God who created truth and authored morality… That is God and the only One who can say what love is, what truth is, because He says what's right and what's wrong. What's good and what's bad, what's true and what's not. When life begins, what a woman is, what a marriage is and what it's not.” TPUSA Faith Allie Beth Stuckey #BelieversSummit
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ALLIE B. STUCKEY: “Now who determines truth? Who arbitrates righteousness versus wrongdoing? Only the God who created truth and authored morality… That is God and the only One who can say what love is, what truth is, because He says what's right and what's wrong. What's good and what's bad, what's true and what's not. When life begins, what a woman is, what a marriage is and what it's not.” TPUSA Faith Allie Beth Stuckey #BelieversSummit

Charlie Kirk

174,204 просмотров • 2 лет назад

A blind spot of the modern world is the way we prioritize the left side of the brain over the right side. The left brain dissects reality. It breaks it apart and analyzes each piece. It's obsessed with what things are. But the right brain sees things differently: it zooms out, grasps the whole, and asks what things mean. This is why we need science and religion: science dismantles the world to understand it, while religion rebuilds it to give life purpose. Without the right side of the brain, there's no space for the transcendent... the wonderful... the beautiful... and for God. (This is from the mathematician, John Lennox, who's building on the work of Iain McGilchrist)
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A blind spot of the modern world is the way we prioritize the left side of the brain over the right side. The left brain dissects reality. It breaks it apart and analyzes each piece. It's obsessed with what things are. But the right brain sees things differently: it zooms out, grasps the whole, and asks what things mean. This is why we need science and religion: science dismantles the world to understand it, while religion rebuilds it to give life purpose. Without the right side of the brain, there's no space for the transcendent... the wonderful... the beautiful... and for God. (This is from the mathematician, John Lennox, who's building on the work of Iain McGilchrist)

David Perell

39,366 просмотров • 1 год назад

My faith in Christ is evidence based. Faith is also essential in science. Einstein said he couldn't imagine a genuine scientist without faith -- for scientists must believe science can be done and believe that the human mind is capable of understanding nature (at least in part).
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My faith in Christ is evidence based. Faith is also essential in science. Einstein said he couldn't imagine a genuine scientist without faith -- for scientists must believe science can be done and believe that the human mind is capable of understanding nature (at least in part).

Prof John Lennox

51,673 просмотров • 1 год назад

Why would God lie about the order of creation? If we believe in God, and that He is a God who can not lie—then we must acknowledge the fact that Genesis Chapter 1 does not fit into modern science and the heliocentric globe model. Both can't be true at once.
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Why would God lie about the order of creation? If we believe in God, and that He is a God who can not lie—then we must acknowledge the fact that Genesis Chapter 1 does not fit into modern science and the heliocentric globe model. Both can't be true at once.

truthache

80,743 просмотров • 10 месяцев назад

Back in 2023, University of Chicago professor Dorian Abbot warned that the corruption of science by woke activist confirmation bias was already underway. DEI statements were functioning as ideological litmus tests. Faculty openly admitted they would discriminate against conservatives in hiring. Heterodox thinkers were being disinvited from seminars, denied tenure, and frozen out of collaborations. The result? Ideology was beginning to override evidence. He described a seminar on “decolonial feminist science” where the scientific method is only accepted if it agrees with feminist or decolonial theory — otherwise, the method itself is rejected. When politics replaces truth-seeking, science dies. This should alarm anyone who cares about real discovery. What’s one example you’ve seen of ideology interfering with science or academia?
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Back in 2023, University of Chicago professor Dorian Abbot warned that the corruption of science by woke activist confirmation bias was already underway. DEI statements were functioning as ideological litmus tests. Faculty openly admitted they would discriminate against conservatives in hiring. Heterodox thinkers were being disinvited from seminars, denied tenure, and frozen out of collaborations. The result? Ideology was beginning to override evidence. He described a seminar on “decolonial feminist science” where the scientific method is only accepted if it agrees with feminist or decolonial theory — otherwise, the method itself is rejected. When politics replaces truth-seeking, science dies. This should alarm anyone who cares about real discovery. What’s one example you’ve seen of ideology interfering with science or academia?

Camus

118,309 просмотров • 3 месяцев назад

November 5, 2021 CDC Director Walensky said that masks reduce the risk of COVID infection by 80%. This was not supportable under any conceivable interpretation of the evidence. Yet the scientific and medical communities supported this and many other lies. They have never apologized or taken responsibility. Today they claim science is "under attack". But how can the scientific community tell the public to "believe in science", when the scientific community has itself shown that it does not believe in science?
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November 5, 2021 CDC Director Walensky said that masks reduce the risk of COVID infection by 80%. This was not supportable under any conceivable interpretation of the evidence. Yet the scientific and medical communities supported this and many other lies. They have never apologized or taken responsibility. Today they claim science is "under attack". But how can the scientific community tell the public to "believe in science", when the scientific community has itself shown that it does not believe in science?

Kevin Bass

34,973 просмотров • 1 год назад

Today marks the beginning of what some call Pride Month. For Christians, we celebrate today like we do every day - that this is the day the Lord has made, so let us rejoice and be glad in it. When we see the acronym LGBTQ, we don’t see sexual identities to celebrate, we see image-bearers of God who are doing what’s right in their own eyes and need the kind of love that points to Jesus and His truth. The truth is God made us male and female so that a man can leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. God IS love and He has the authority to define it. He calls homosexuality a sin, and holy marriage between a man and woman very good. The most loving thing we can do is agree with God. We can’t love others by affirming sin. This is my response to why we don’t celebrate Pride Month:
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Today marks the beginning of what some call Pride Month. For Christians, we celebrate today like we do every day - that this is the day the Lord has made, so let us rejoice and be glad in it. When we see the acronym LGBTQ, we don’t see sexual identities to celebrate, we see image-bearers of God who are doing what’s right in their own eyes and need the kind of love that points to Jesus and His truth. The truth is God made us male and female so that a man can leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. God IS love and He has the authority to define it. He calls homosexuality a sin, and holy marriage between a man and woman very good. The most loving thing we can do is agree with God. We can’t love others by affirming sin. This is my response to why we don’t celebrate Pride Month:

Allie Beth Stuckey

125,414 просмотров • 1 месяц назад

“This Is An Epochal Moment” Science writer and Lord peer Matt Ridley joins me to discuss the collapse of the post war consensus and the growing crisis of trust in global institutions. We discuss the failures of organisations like the WHO and the United Nations, the politicisation of science from Covid to climate, and why expertise is increasingly seen as serving power rather than truth. A challenging conversation about science, energy, and whether the systems that shaped the modern world are now losing public trust. Podcast out now on all platforms | Links in replies
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“This Is An Epochal Moment” Science writer and Lord peer Matt Ridley joins me to discuss the collapse of the post war consensus and the growing crisis of trust in global institutions. We discuss the failures of organisations like the WHO and the United Nations, the politicisation of science from Covid to climate, and why expertise is increasingly seen as serving power rather than truth. A challenging conversation about science, energy, and whether the systems that shaped the modern world are now losing public trust. Podcast out now on all platforms | Links in replies

Winston Marshall

22,308 просмотров • 3 месяцев назад

Professor Bas van Fraassen argues science doesn't deliver literal truth about reality, meaning unobservable physics is merely a model. He also contends the self isn't a thing and that logic permits free will, ultimately sharing how he maintains faith in God without relying on metaphysics.
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Professor Bas van Fraassen argues science doesn't deliver literal truth about reality, meaning unobservable physics is merely a model. He also contends the self isn't a thing and that logic permits free will, ultimately sharing how he maintains faith in God without relying on metaphysics.

Curt Jaimungal

15,751 просмотров • 7 месяцев назад

Interesting argument. If we were to steel man this and represent it as a syllogism I think it would look like this: 1. God is perfect 2. A perfect being would only create perfect things 3. The world is imperfect 4. Therefore, a perfect God could not have created this world ...And then we'd further conclude a perfect God doesn't exist. The problem is with premise two, for a number of reasons. Firstly, what does it mean to be perfect? To be perfect is to lack for nothing, to be without flaws, to be fully actualized. But only God is like that, so the only way for God to make something perfect would be to make another God exactly like Himself. But there's a problem with this because the second God couldn't be exactly the same since he had to be created, rather than simply existing by his very nature. So logically speaking God can't create something perfect. This means that if* God creates, God can only create things that are imperfect. So now that we've established that God can't make something perfect, I guess the question is... why would God create? Here's a thought. Ontologically speaking God is the greatest conceivable being... would the greatest conceivable being create things? Or not create things? It seems obvious that creating is greater than not creating. An artist that creates no art wouldn't be much of an artist. If this is correct, it means God will create, and from my first argument God will create something imperfect... something flawed. Something lacking. Another thing worth pointing out is that as humans we knowingly create imperfect beings. We know when a baby is born, it's not perfect... yet we choose to do it anyway. Why? Is our desire to bring new life into the world something evil or wicked? I don't think so. I think it comes from our love for each other and our understanding that giving life is a blessing, even if that child screws up, even if they suffer, their life is a blessing. If God is good, wouldn't He want to bless something with the gift of life, the same way we do? I don't see why not. From this I think it follows that if God exists we'd expect to be in some sort of imperfect or flawed reality, and that's exactly what we find ourselves in. But how does atheism explain the existence of a flawed world? To say that something is flawed is to say it's not how it should be. But how can the world be flawed if atheism is true? On atheism the world just... is. It's not meant to be any sort of way. To be consistent the atheist would have to say reality isn't flawed, which is obviously absurd. This means that not only can Christianity explain the world we find ourselves in, it predicts it logically. Atheism on the other hand would have to predict a totally neutral world with no flaws, no issues, no evil... and no one in their right mind would say that's the world we find ourselves in. So this argument not only fails, it gives us more great reasons to reject atheism.
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Interesting argument. If we were to steel man this and represent it as a syllogism I think it would look like this: 1. God is perfect 2. A perfect being would only create perfect things 3. The world is imperfect 4. Therefore, a perfect God could not have created this world ...And then we'd further conclude a perfect God doesn't exist. The problem is with premise two, for a number of reasons. Firstly, what does it mean to be perfect? To be perfect is to lack for nothing, to be without flaws, to be fully actualized. But only God is like that, so the only way for God to make something perfect would be to make another God exactly like Himself. But there's a problem with this because the second God couldn't be exactly the same since he had to be created, rather than simply existing by his very nature. So logically speaking God can't create something perfect. This means that if* God creates, God can only create things that are imperfect. So now that we've established that God can't make something perfect, I guess the question is... why would God create? Here's a thought. Ontologically speaking God is the greatest conceivable being... would the greatest conceivable being create things? Or not create things? It seems obvious that creating is greater than not creating. An artist that creates no art wouldn't be much of an artist. If this is correct, it means God will create, and from my first argument God will create something imperfect... something flawed. Something lacking. Another thing worth pointing out is that as humans we knowingly create imperfect beings. We know when a baby is born, it's not perfect... yet we choose to do it anyway. Why? Is our desire to bring new life into the world something evil or wicked? I don't think so. I think it comes from our love for each other and our understanding that giving life is a blessing, even if that child screws up, even if they suffer, their life is a blessing. If God is good, wouldn't He want to bless something with the gift of life, the same way we do? I don't see why not. From this I think it follows that if God exists we'd expect to be in some sort of imperfect or flawed reality, and that's exactly what we find ourselves in. But how does atheism explain the existence of a flawed world? To say that something is flawed is to say it's not how it should be. But how can the world be flawed if atheism is true? On atheism the world just... is. It's not meant to be any sort of way. To be consistent the atheist would have to say reality isn't flawed, which is obviously absurd. This means that not only can Christianity explain the world we find ourselves in, it predicts it logically. Atheism on the other hand would have to predict a totally neutral world with no flaws, no issues, no evil... and no one in their right mind would say that's the world we find ourselves in. So this argument not only fails, it gives us more great reasons to reject atheism.

Darwin to Jesus

57,618 просмотров • 3 месяцев назад