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🚨 "Kaspa vProgs basically out engineered Internet Computer" Sharing this clip from a developer who went from Bitcoin to Ethereum to Cardano to ICP in search of real innovation and finally ended up at Kaspa. His own words say it all. 👇 “In hindsight Kaspa vProgs made the feature...

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Olaf Wellervor 11 Monaten

Read this great summary of the journey of this dev:

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Abs ∞ ⛩️vor 11 Monaten

If you’re really using this brothers clips to boost $KAS, you’re fudding you’re own bags. He’s literally a meme here at $ICP.

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Malgotasvor 11 Monaten

So basically the line is “it’s okay to have centralized and off-chain apps and use Web2 cloud to do all the work as long as you pick KAS to access it all.” Yeah… totally out-engineered ICP. Great argument bro.

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Dao Kingvor 11 Monaten

What will you do when Kaspa doesn't give him a grant like $ICP didn't and he moves on? Also Kaspa is were ICP was in 2021. The onchain model of what ICP has done can't be duplicated easily thus why Kaspa has a work around, don't get it twisted ICP has no competition and Kaspa will never be competition. Kaspa’s own “vProgs” model literally exists because they can’t do what ICP does on-chain so they had to create a workaround to avoid doing computation on-chain. That’s not innovation. That’s a limitation. You can respect Kaspa for what it claims to be, a future-focused digital cash layer, but don’t twist the narrative: ICP and Kaspa are not competitors. ICP operates in a completely different tier. Kaspa is solving payments. ICP is solving the decentralized internet.

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JP 𐤊vor 11 Monaten

Welcome to the Kaspa family!! $KAS

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Olaf Wellervor 11 Monaten

Thanks mate, been here already for some time. Cheers, Bock ;)

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I do not like XRP𐤊vor 11 Monaten

We shouldn't even be comparing $Kaspa to $icp 🤣

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Peepeevor 11 Monaten

Ah, yes. Heed the advice of the disgruntled quasi software developer who failed to secure a grant from Dfinity because he couldn't develop his way out of a paper bag. Yes, the same guy who also has 10,000 ICP tokens locked up for 8 years. Kas baggies never change.

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Olaf Wellervor 11 Monaten

I read: hard working guy who develops software and tried to get a grant for it, good move. I also read: conviction in a project by locking up tokens for a long period, love to have such a guy in the Kaspa community. Can you make a rational comment against any of the arguments this dev makes in his video about the tech? Did you read the vProgs yellow paper?

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codecustardvor 11 Monaten

@peepeeonicp Please. Please. Please. Dont get me started. Lmao. I can easily make arguments. Dont challenge.

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16bit.kas 𐤊vor 11 Monaten

@WellerOlaf @peepeeonicp Waiting for one.

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codecustardvor 11 Monaten

@WellerOlaf @peepeeonicp I still like $KAS though. 😉. But you're a clown if you FUD ICP while still simping/using centralized solutions that are more centralized than ICP. They're not comparable by a long shot.

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Olaf Wellervor 11 Monaten

Hey Custard, thanks for taking the time to bring such well-thought-out arguments. It really pushes me to deepen my understanding of vProgs so I can respond properly. I’ll need a bit of time to look into it, so thanks for your patience. In the meantime, maybe some other Kaspians want to jump in already.

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3dock.icp ∞vor 11 Monaten

🤣 😂 u can claim him it’s okay. 👍

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ASH𐤊ASPAvor 11 Monaten

Looks genuine feedback from developer #kaspa is endgame

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Gatorbait ∞vor 11 Monaten

This guy got pissed when he didnt get a grant and then got even more pissed when he found out that any non developer could create his app and deploy it onto icp with no coding experience. Ever since then he's had a vendetta for ICP.

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Danfovor 11 Monaten

James has finally found a home thank god

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Web3 Devs Undergroundvor 11 Monaten

More on that you can find in the recording of our last meetup where @michaelsuttonil , co founder of @kaspaunchained explained vProgs-

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Olaf Wellervor 11 Monaten

@michaelsuttonil @kaspaunchained Can you please use to improve the audio? It is cheap and fast and helps to reach more people. Also making short clips helps.

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MuhdShan𐤊vor 11 Monaten

Thanks for this sharing brother, The expression on his face about $KAS vProgs says it all.

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Miss Divine ∞ ✨ (李金莎)vor 11 Monaten

$ICP and $KAS aren’t competitors in my eyes but I get it’s nice to use the words of a deluded convert to help your own agenda so I have nothing against that! My concern is why you think compute can be centralised? How is that web3? I’ve known Kaspa to be a unique innovation that has never been seen before and true web3 / decentralization. So why go against those principles for compute with vProgs? Because the foundations of the blockchain mean it can’t be done in an on chain way? I’ll read the paper because it sounds interesting but I really think we’re comparing apples to oranges here!

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K.S.vor 11 Monaten

That’s why $KAS

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The Kaspa Onion ꓘvor 11 Monaten

I can tell you had to choose between stacking more kaspa vs a better mic You made the right choice bro 🔥🧅

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Olaf Wellervor 11 Monaten

😆

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tkalavor 11 Monaten

The strongest trait these days is realizing your own mistakes and acknowledging them publicly. Hats off to that man!

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Kas123thekingvor 11 Monaten

Thats $KAS Bullish!

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CaptainOblivious, G.e.D🐉ICP-XTC-BOB, mostly ICPvor 11 Monaten

Lol

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Fes Navarrovor 11 Monaten

ICP already validates external computation through chain-key crypto and secure enclaves, everything vProgs promise, ICP delivers today.

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Ryan Lovelettervor 11 Monaten

@Kaspa_HypeMan The only problem is when will they be ready to go.

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kaspaThrill 𐤊t 💚🐈‍⬛vor 11 Monaten

Good one

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Aaron Sanchezvor 11 Monaten

Notice how he looked away from the camera at 0:09 to 0:11 mark when he tried to hype up Kaspa as being better than ICP. That the "I don't believe my own BS" look. I'm willing to bet he's gonna ask Kaspa community to fund him if he hasn't already.

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daniel.kasvor 11 Monaten

$KAS Nothing comes and will come close.

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Prez1kvor 1 Monat

@Kaspa_HypeMan And we all agree that Cardano is practically useless right?

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Gigivor 11 Monaten

🎯

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KASDROIDvor 1 Monat

Kaspa! Lets go!

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Paulvor 11 Monaten

@smurfman intresting

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LinuxGeorgevor 1 Monat

@cryptotowelie_ kaspa:native ☝️🫡

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IotanBvor 1 Monat

@thekaspaonion This guy, James you are referencing also claimed that WW3 is a certainty 😂

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Robinetvor 11 Monaten

bahahahaha 😂😂

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See𐤊ervor 11 Monaten

👨🏽‍🏫📖

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𐤊sd444vor 11 Monaten

#Kaspa $KAS 🔥 𐤊 🔥

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