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Larry Ellison $ORCL highlighted something critical: models like ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, and Llama are all trained on largely the same public internet data. When everyone trains on the same information, models inevitably converge. That’s why AI is moving toward commoditization. The real moat isn’t the model itself. It’s the... show more

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