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Listen to John Piper explain how preaching consistent Calvinism too plainly “isn’t quite right” because it’s not the “tone of the New Testament.” Amen!!! 🙏

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Фото профиля @Blue🌷
@Blue🌷1 год назад

No, Piper is exhorting pastors to preach the whole counsel of God. He said “…of course, if you’re elect you won’t” fall away, but the warnings of apostasy in the NT are very real warnings. They are a means of grace for the elect to keep them on the Narrow Way. If a person “fall’s away” and apostatizes them that person was never really in possession of that which they claimed to have. “They went out from us, but they did not belong to us; for if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. However, they went out so that it might be made clear that none of them belongs to us.”

Фото профиля Church and Family Life
Church and Family Life1 год назад

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Фото профиля Fletch
Fletch1 год назад

Translation: when you zoom out from the out of context prooftexts, calvinism doesn't fit with the Bible.

Фото профиля Chris P. Bacon ✝️⚾️
Chris P. Bacon ✝️⚾️1 год назад

And the tone of the New Testament warning against apostasy does not once say, oh, actually, if you’re elect, you cannot apostatize. No. The warnings and their consequences are promised to the very elect…! It’s nonsense if it isn’t actually applicable to the elect…!

Фото профиля Jordan Paterson
Jordan Paterson1 год назад

How is this not entirely consistent with "Perseverance of The Saints"?

Фото профиля Kenneth A. Grimm ن "K. A. G. Sundaram"
Kenneth A. Grimm ن "K. A. G. Sundaram"1 год назад

That entire vibe is not right. He takes a New Testament quote, and makes it into something else through his delivery. I do not see the “tone of the New Testament” at all in his presentation.

Фото профиля David Bell
David Bell1 год назад

He's getting there. Slowly but surely. Now he has to learn that elect means those who believe in Christ.

Фото профиля Consistent Calvinism Podcast
Consistent Calvinism Podcast1 год назад

He clearly says that professing believers can fall away, which is precisely what the Bible teaches and warns. Piper simply warns against excluding that from the preaching and only preaching about the elect and eternal security.

Фото профиля Rosie Peterson
Rosie Peterson1 год назад

Sorry, just can't listen to Piper talk. 🙉

Фото профиля The Calvinist Father
The Calvinist Father1 год назад

It is worth noting TOO how he confesses one CANNOT KNOW THEY ARE ELECT! On Calvinism salvation is a GUESS They cannot KNOW they have ETERNAL LIFE The implications of Calvinism get WORSE the DEEPER you go

Фото профиля Jordan Tate
Jordan Tate1 год назад

What’s not Calvinistic about this?

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