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🚨🇺🇸🇨🇳 MICROSOFT & OPENAI SUSPECT DEEPSEEK OF “BORROWING” THEIR TECH Microsoft and OpenAI are investigating whether DeepSeek, a Chinese AI startup, helped itself to OpenAI’s data using its API. Microsoft’s security team flagged suspicious large-scale data extraction in late 2023, suggesting DeepSeek may have sneakily bypassed restrictions to grab...

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John van Rijckvor 1 Jahr

probably the other way around

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Brian Bassonvor 1 Jahr

wouldn't surprise me one bit, they're great at copy and paste....

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Inverted Hedgevor 1 Jahr

Really? Because OpenAI definitely didn't train its model on a bunch of copywrited material they didn't pay for either. And then had the main whistleblower for this knocked off and called a suicide under incredibly suspicious conditions. Nope, certainly not.

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Blockvor 1 Jahr

Not surprising

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Fuck Sam Altman

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KF.eth 🧱⟁vor 1 Jahr

It’s not f*cking 8th place trophy. Go get it. It’s a competition. WTF is this attitude

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Barefoot Pregnantvor 1 Jahr

If DeepSeek did siphon off OpenAI’s tech, that’s a massive blow.

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Phucky McFacersonvor 1 Jahr

It just makes you wonder if china can make a better AI by copying our companies and morphing it, why arent american AI companies doing the same thing? Or are they already? @syrcles

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Make Men Great Againvor 1 Jahr

China stealing U.S. tech? Shocker. This is why Trump pushed America First. keep our AI, our jobs, and our future out of CCP hands.

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