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Microsoft today showcased DeepSeek V4 Flash, a 284B-parameter open-weight model, runs locally on a Windows PC once quantized to 1.6 bits, which brings it down to about 60GB of memory. Their new Surface Laptop Ultra, built on Nvidia's RTX Spark chip with up to 128GB of unified memory, has...

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Emir Çitak's profile picture
Emir Çitak29 days ago

1.6 bits on a 284B model, does it still know anything

Yev Spektor's profile picture
Yev Spektor29 days ago

any benchmarks for the 1.6bit quantization?

Rohan Paul's profile picture
Rohan Paul29 days ago

full video

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Tsukikira29 days ago

Dwarfstar 4 does DS4F at 2 bits with intelligent router at FP8, 81 gb which worked on MacBook Pro and for the last 4-5 months. This doesn't seem that impressive, in fact it's a worse bitrate.

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Chahat Sharma29 days ago

284B at 1.6 bits is about 57GB, so the memory math works. did Microsoft show what the 1.6 bit version scores against full precision, and what tokens per second on that chip

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Mohamed Sami Zeghdar29 days ago

This says more about the how the model was made than about the hardware. Props to the deepseek guys.

Vipul Kumar Kewat's profile picture
Vipul Kumar Kewat29 days ago

Running a 284B model locally is a wild direction for consumer hardware.

Xar's profile picture
Xar29 days ago

Micosoft is shilling other folks models wtf?!

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raymel 👋29 days ago

They're trying to beat Apple it its own game

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J29 days ago

1.6 bits is the number that needs a benchmark next to it. fitting 284B into 60GB is a memory story. whether it still beats a ~30B model at 8 bits on the same laptop is the question that decides if anyone runs it

Trojanw0w's profile picture
Trojanw0w29 days ago

Yeah but what's the cost of this fucking thing

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ShadowAguy29 days ago

60GB to run a quantized 284B locally means my laptop fans are filing a restraining order before the first token

Salik Shah ✨🚀's profile picture
Salik Shah ✨🚀29 days ago

Laptops will mean a different thing in the future. Maybe phones too. Or maybe we'll just think with chips on our temple!

EDDY VU's profile picture
EDDY VU29 days ago

Getting a 284B model to fit on a laptop is wild, curious what kind of generation speed they actually hit.

DeDollarist's profile picture
DeDollarist29 days ago

First 3 speakers are Indian origins😂

Aulia Bismar's profile picture
Aulia Bismar29 days ago

How useful is quanted 1 bit ds4f

TslaMan's profile picture
TslaMan29 days ago

Who the fuck brags about q1.6? It is the equivalency of bragging that you have Down syndrome

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La Voix du Chat Artiste29 days ago

I am not sure which part of the news make sense …

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luarvians29 days ago

太贵了…

Abdulmuiz Adeyemo's profile picture
Abdulmuiz Adeyemo29 days ago

Great

Chaman Kanth's profile picture
Chaman Kanth29 days ago

And then no one buys cloud subscription 😂

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ndmrau29 days ago

the memory math checks out, 284 billion weights at 1.6 bits is about 57 gb. what to check next is quality, since a model squeezed to 1.6 bits can lose accuracy compared with the same model at 4 bits, and speed per token depends on memory bandwidth too.

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neo29 days ago

who da fuck has 60GB of RAM? I need alternatives for poor people with 16GB on a linux laptop

Jatindeep Singh's profile picture
Jatindeep Singh29 days ago

And to comprehend that they tried best to frighten window users from running deepseek, when it came out.

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George Raven29 days ago

I wonder if all those quantization heroes realize how the model builds up gradient during RL :)

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