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🚨 MMR Trials: The Control Group That Never Existed Grok claims early measles vaccines used saline placebos in pediatric trials. Aaron Siri checked the original FDA reports for MMR II, licensed in 1978, and the truth is simple. There was no control group. -No saline. -No comparison arm. -Nothing....

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Vaccine Safety "Pyramid Scheme" Exposed: The Shocking Truth They Never Wanted You to See In an amazing presentation, attorney Aaron Siri drops a truth bomb that should be heard by every parent, doctor, and policymaker. He systematically dismantles the most common defense of the childhood vaccine schedule: the claim that they were tested against saline placebos. Siri reveals a chart, built from years of work and sourced directly from FDA documents, that tracks the clinical trials for every single routine injected childhood vaccine. The categorical finding? Not one. Not a single one. Here is the stunning reality: - No Saline Placebos: There has NEVER been a routine injected childhood vaccine licensed based on a placebo-controlled trial using an inert saline solution. - The "Pyramid Scheme" of Safety: Instead, new vaccines are tested against older vaccines, which were themselves tested against even older ones. This creates a "daisy chain" where safety is only ever compared to another product that also lacked a true safety baseline. - The Proof is in the FDA's Own Documents: The source for this chart is the FDA's website. As Siri states, "If you don't agree with this information... you're arguing with the FDA." Some of the most shocking examples: - Hepatitis B: The first vaccines for newborns were licensed with no control group at all. - PCV (Pneumococcal): The original Prevnar 7 was tested against another experimental vaccine—a practice Siri compares to testing a new cancer drug against another unproven cancer drug. - Polio (IPOL): The modern IPV vaccine, a completely different technology from the Salk vaccine, was licensed with a safety review of just three days and no control group. - MMR: The clinical trials for the current MMR II, which uses human fetal cell lines, used no control group. - HPV (Gardasil): The "placebo" used in trials for thousands of young girls was not saline. It often contained the aluminum adjuvant—a known neurotoxin with no therapeutic benefit—effectively rigging the trial to mask true adverse event rates. This rigged system allows serious adverse event rates in healthy children to creep into the 7%, 8%, and even 9% range in clinical trials. Because the control group gets a similarly reactive shot, the numbers appear "similar" and are deemed "safe," hiding the true risk. The bottom line: The entire childhood vaccine schedule rests on a foundation that has never been properly tested for safety against an inert placebo. The baseline safety profile for these products is, and has always been, unknown. This isn't an opinion. It's a fact documented by the FDA itself. If this doesn't make you question everything, what will?

Camus

474,264 views • 9 months ago

Dear South Carolina: #lindabell Careful with semantics - this is perjury. They state fetal cells have nothing to do with MMR, so they are trying to remove all exemptions on South Carolina- This fact has been consistently distorted by institutions eager to downplay ethically relevant and biologically significant facts. The reality: Yes, the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine does involve fetal-derived cells, specifically, human diploid cell lines that originated from electively aborted fetuses in the 1960s. However, it’s crucial to understand where and how these cells are involved. Specific cell lines used WI‑38 (Wistar Institute 38): Female fetal lung fibroblasts. Derived in 1962 (Sweden/Philadelphia). Used notably for the rubella component of the original MMR. MRC‑5 (Medical Research Council‑5): Male fetal lung fibroblasts. Derived in 1966 (UK). Used in various live viral vaccines, sometimes substituting for WI‑38. These cell lines were created from lung tissue taken from two separate aborted fetuses, not from a continuous series of abortions — but the fact remains: aborted fetal cells were the original source material. How they’re used: In the MMR vaccine (particularly the rubella component): The rubella virus (RA27/3 strain) was first isolated and attenuated in WI‑38 cells. Once the vaccine strain was developed, production continued using human diploid fibroblasts as a cell substrate (the “factory” in which the virus is grown). The virus is later harvested, purified, and stabilized. So, while no intact fetal cells are in the final vaccine, residual human DNA fragments and cellular debris are, because the viral culture medium derives from these diploid cell lines. Small amounts of human DNA (~10–20 nanograms per dose) remain after filtration. Ingredient label explanation The ingredient list won’t explicitly say “fetal cells,” but look for terms like: “WI‑38 human diploid lung fibroblasts” “MRC‑5 human diploid fibroblasts” Or in some documentation: “cell culture media derived from human diploid lung cells” Those descriptors mean fetal-derived cells were used in propagation. Ethical & scientific considerations Bioethical dimension: Many people object on moral or religious grounds to products developed from fetal tissue, even if no new abortions occur today. The lack of transparency on insert labeling prevents fully informed consent. Scientific concern: independent researchers have long debated whether residual human DNA could integrate or trigger unintended immune or epigenetic effects, particularly in developing brains — a matter regulators have been reluctant to examine openly. To summarize: COMPONENTCELL LINE SOURCEFETAL ORIGINSTILL PRESENT IN FINAL PRODUCT? MeaslesChicken embryo cellsNoNo MumpsChicken embryo cellsNoNo RubellaWI‑38 (human diploid fetal lung)YesResidual DNA fragments remain So the truthful answer is: The rubella component of the MMR vaccine is cultured in human fetal cell lines (WI‑38 or MRC‑5), meaning fetal-derived material was essential to its production, and trace human DNA fragments remain in each dose. Sen. Josh Kimbrell where did it come from? Scientific fact that your epidemiologist buddy giving testimony is either not qualified to discern, or she’s just not being honest under oath.

Dr. Lynn Fynn-derella

32,914 views • 6 months ago

Aaron Siri Exposes Shocking Truth About Fetal Cell Lines in MMR Vaccines In a recent conversation, attorney Aaron Siri broke down why many parents are deeply disturbed by how vaccines like the MMR are produced. He pointed to official CDC ingredient lists showing that cultured cell lines such as MRC-5 and WI-38—originally derived from aborted fetal tissue—are used in the growth process of certain viral vaccines. Siri explained that viruses cannot replicate on their own; they must be grown in living cells. According to him, the rubella virus used in MMR was cultured using human fetal lung fibroblasts. This claim traces back to historical studies where researchers examined tissue samples from dozens of aborted fetuses to determine which body parts could best sustain viral growth. Siri referenced his deposition of Dr. Stanley Plotkin—often called the “godfather of vaccines”—and described it as one of the most disturbing records available for public review. The deposition, according to him, detailed studies involving normal, healthy fetuses used for experimental virus culture research. Many listeners reacted with disbelief and moral outrage, calling the practice a “sacrificial” aspect of modern vaccine production—something they say crosses ethical and religious boundaries. Siri emphasized that his goal is transparency and informed consent, urging Americans to see the original court deposition for themselves before forming conclusions.

Camus

45,102 views • 9 months ago

Had another interview with a reporter the other day and they asked me about the studies the government has done on the shots collectively given to infants in the first year of life, and whether they used a proper control group of children who didn't receive those shots. These studies are such a joke. What they end up doing with MMR, for instance, is saying they took children who got all the vaccines except MMR, then all the vaccines plus MMR, and didn't see a statistically significant uptick in autism, and therefore MMR doesn't cause autism. And that study is fine, if all the other vaccines have already been proven not to cause autism. Then you have a proper control group. But the Institute of Medicine states clearly there is no study that isolates the DTaP vaccine. And the CDC has suspected DTaP since the 1986 Act, which literally listed diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis as being associated with autism and as the first thing that should be investigated once they took on the liability. That investigation has never happened. I think we should ask ourselves why. Because if DTaP causes autism, it erases the validity of the MMR study entirely. Your control group had a product in it that can cause autism. That is the problem with the science that has been done so far. I have had both Dr. Stanley Plotkin and Kathryn Edwards on the stand in front of Aaron Siri, two of the most iconic figures in the vaccine space. When asked, listing every vaccine one by one, "Do you have a study showing it doesn't cause autism?" Kathryn Edwards had none. Stanley Plotkin stated the same thing under oath. What they both explained is that they made an assumption that vaccines don't cause autism. I have that on video on my website. These are the authors of Plotkin's Vaccines, considered the bible on vaccinations. So if your top vaccine scientists cannot provide a single study under oath, why are newspapers reporting there are mountains of evidence? I sued the CDC. I said show me the trials you relied upon for the first six vaccines in the first six months of life to conclude they don't cause autism. They had zero. Not for Hepatitis B. Not for polio. Not for DTaP. Zero. There is no two or three year placebo trial for these products like you would see with every other drug. And that is not an accident. Causation is established in a placebo trial. If you skip that trial, you remove your ability to ever get to causation. You are permanently stuck in the land of "associated with." And the agency that is required to do the safety studies is the same agency defending itself in court against me. They are not doing the science, so you cannot win. That is where we are.

Del Bigtree

29,970 views • 4 months ago

Did you know that there was no pre-license clinical trial on the MMR vaccine before it was mass administered? This is one of my favorite parts from the Siri and Plotkin deposition, and demonstrates how horrible vaccine science really is. Share this with anyone who is adamant about vaccines being properly safety tested, especially the MMR vaccine, which has been at the root of the autism discussion for decades. Make sure they know exactly who Plotkin is, and his importance and prestige in vaccinology. You can see Plotkin panicking internally as he begins to figure out that Siri isn't going to let him weasel out of the fact that there are no proper studies discerning the safety of the MMR vaccine, and Plotkin eventually says he won't provide any studies, and he just has to "read his book". That book being the Vaccination Bible. Siri eventually forces it out of Plotkin that the MMR vaccine studies never had a saline placebo group. This is a perfect example of what a great lawyer pursuing truth looks like. Siri says: "So you're claiming something happened, but you're not willing to provide any proof that it happened?" Plotkin: "....the proof is in the publications (his book), which you can read if you like". Plotkin gives the same line about how "these vaccines have been studied for 50 years", and Siri responds with basically "I know you just want us to take your word for it, but I prefer to rely on science, peer reviewed publications, and clinical trials. I know you're getting upset about me trying to ask for the data" and then explains what is required for a vaccine to be approved per the FDA with placebo controls. After some more deliberation, Siri asks Plotkin to provide him anything in regards to a study that had a placebo group, and Plotkin eventually has to say HE DOESN'T KNOW IF IT HAD A PLACEBO GROUP, and he would have to go back and look at the individual study. Think about this for a second... Godfather of vaccines. One of the most controversial vaccines in history in regards to autism and various injuries, and he doesn't know if there was a placebo control used in a study for it? Come on... This continues for a couple more minutes before Plotkin has to give up and say "I will look for the studies and provide them to you after the deposition". Guess what? He never provided those studies, as expected. Same thing Fauci did to RFK when asked. They know these studies don't exist, but they put on a show to save face. This is being knowingly dishonest. This is lying under oath. This is so wrong because the result of this lie and lack of proper safety studies is people being harmed or killed, or kids being brain damaged for life and suffering immensely. It's unforgiveable. There isn't a jail cell small enough for these criminals. One of the most damning clips from the deposition. Aaron Siri is a beast and deserves immense respect, on par with RFK.

Inversionism

760,168 views • 3 years ago

Of the 661 studies often cited as proof that childhood vaccines are tested against inert placebos, a detailed breakdown reveals a shocking truth: not a single one was used to license a routine injected vaccine on the CDC schedule with a true saline placebo. Here’s the breakdown by Aaron Siri: ➡️ 567 studies were for non-routine vaccines (e.g., HIV vaccines). Irrelevant. ➡️ Of the remaining 94, 70 did not involve healthy children (e.g., HIV+ adults). Irrelevant. ➡️ Of the remaining 24, 21 did not involve a US-licensed vaccine or a control used to license one. Irrelevant. That leaves just 3 studies. But do they hold up? 1. Varicella (chickenpox) vaccine: Control group was injected with neomycin (an antibiotic), NOT an inert placebo. 2. Gardasil-4: The “inert” control group received everything in the vial except antigens and alum—including L-histidine, sodium borate, and yeast protein. NOT inert. 3. Gardasil-9: A small group received saline, BUT only after first receiving three doses of Gardasil-4. Not a true inert control. The result? ZERO trials with a true inert placebo were used to license any routine childhood vaccine. This isn’t just a statistical oversight—it’s a fundamental flaw in how we assess vaccine safety. Proper safety trials require: ✅ A true inert control (e.g., saline) ✅ Long-term safety review ✅ Sufficient power (large sample size) Not a single routine childhood vaccine on the CDC schedule meets all three criteria. When RFK Jr. highlighted this lack of placebo-controlled data, fact-checkers pointed to the same flawed list of 661 studies. After his analysis debunked them, the list was mysteriously expanded—perhaps hoping a larger number would obscure the truth. The truth remains: without proper controls, we cannot robustly quantify the risks of vaccines. Parents and physicians deserve transparent, high-quality data to make informed decisions.

Camus

59,416 views • 11 months ago