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PixelPronghorn🇺🇲vor 2 Monaten

If we used a base 12 counting system, this wouldn't work btw. .9 repeating will never actually equal 1. It's just due to how we use numbers.

Profilbild von 🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵vor 2 Monaten

Same works in Base12 actually! Just not with the digit 9. If we use: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B, Then 0.BBB... = 1

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PixelPronghorn🇺🇲vor 2 Monaten

So I just went into a deep dive on this and it turns out i believed in hyperreal numbers without knowing what they were. Cool.

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Alopecoidvor 2 Monaten

Ngl an easier way to show anyone not too versed in algebra is by showing them the pattern for any number divided by 9. Starting with 1⁄9, you get 0.1̅, arriving to 8⁄9, you get 0.8̅, & following that pattern, you'd expect 9⁄9 to be 0.9̅, & 9⁄9 is a whole fraction, so 0.9̅ = 1

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Just Dandy 🐱vor 2 Monaten

Didn't know VR chat furries teaching me math in a winter cabin over a fireplace was a genera of entertainment I needed.

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Rong-Yao Artsvor 2 Monaten

0.999x10=9.99 not 9.999 also you resolving x in the second cell but you are not resolving x in the first cell, you just assume t hat x is x [because x can't be two values, yes but you separated it] if you remove decimal you must add x-decimal to complete the equation. aka 0.999

Profilbild von 🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵vor 2 Monaten

That's actually incorrect. 0.9̅ × 10 is still equal to 9.9̅ with the decimal. This is because the decimal repeats infinitely. 0.9̅ is just another way to write 0.99999.... (infinite nines) So when we shift the decimal place by one, we still have an infinite amount of nines.

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Rong-Yao Artsvor 2 Monaten

i think you are incorrect and lacking of understanding how important a fraction of something is sorry, we cannot just make up math, i don't know what teachers teaching you in school nowadays but you cannot generalize in math e.g. pi ellipsis means you just don't represent it

Profilbild von 🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵vor 2 Monaten

Official documentation of this by the way. Here's a Harvard paper explaining the same concept. We're not "making up math". This is the standard.

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Rong-Yao Artsvor 2 Monaten

well math states x=/=xε unless ε=0

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Justin Balvor 2 Monaten

@Wrenosaur_ I found it helpful to view it as a geometric series. 0.9(0.1)^0 + 0.9(0.1)^1 + 0.9(0.1)^2 + … + 0.9(0.1)^n = 0.9(1 - (0.1)^n)/(1 - 0.1) = 1 - (0.1)^n As n -> inf, 1 - (0.1)^n -> 1

Profilbild von 🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵vor 2 Monaten

@HanRongYao Yes! You can actually express it as this

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lemonvor 2 Monaten

By that logic any number is equal to every other number (20-X = 19) and a separate equation (25-X = 19) uses the same logic that would prove that and 6 and 1 are the same number The X value AND the starting value WEREN'T the same in the video, which doesn't prove squat

Profilbild von 🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵vor 2 Monaten

20 - X = 19. X = 1 25 - X = 19 X = 6 No, it doesn't create equivalence between any two numbers. It simply states that (0.999...) = 1.

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lemonvor 2 Monaten

Nope. The X wasn't the same number in YOUR logic, and you can only prove it with the assumption that 0.999 is 1, which is what the problem is trying to solve. It's a simple case of circular reasoning. You can only prove it with the assumption that its already true,

Profilbild von 🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵vor 2 Monaten

If we consider that x = 0.999... Then we can prove that 9x = 9 That means that x = 1. The equivalence is gathered through transitivity. 0.999... = x = 1 0.999... = 1 You can prove this very neatly through summations and limits as well. The sum converges infinitely.

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lemonvor 2 Monaten

Then how come the proof is in the red but you can only find the proof by assuming the proof is real in the yellow before you find the answer in the red

Profilbild von 🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵vor 2 Monaten

We didn't assume anything. This was gathered both in the video, and in my comments to you. If you claim that my explanation is wrong, then please point out exactly where this mathematical proof fails.

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lemonvor 2 Monaten

Here because you're assuming they're the same and not slightly different by an infinite margin because its a infinite ending in 0 and not an infinite ending in 9

Profilbild von 🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵vor 2 Monaten

"Infinite ending"... 😐 The definition of "infinite" is never-ending. Infinite has no 'end'. What are you talking about?

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Star Seekervor 2 Monaten

Bro got a tongue so big it is distracting

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🇨🇦 MELL0W#0413 🛡vor 2 Monaten

Yoooo

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Snowy Patriot ☃️vor 2 Monaten

I love math. And it felt good to finally learn a new math concept. It’s been years! :3

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Elijahvor 2 Monaten

You genuinely left me stunned. No error in the math, no errors in your explanation. Dang.... (I'm really a math nerd, and I really don't do this XD)

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Kairne 🇺🇸vor 2 Monaten

The weird math-logic way of explaining this property is that 1.0 and 0.999 have no discernible, finite values between them. You can always find another number between any two numbers on the number line. If you cannot find a value between two values, then they’re the same number.

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James Brownvor 2 Monaten

This is a good intro to get people to start understanding limits, but it ultimately fails since 10x-x is arbitrarily 9x in this system. A better way to prove this is with the Archimedean property, or even the nested intervals theorem (idk if most people will understand that tho)

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Unavailable Crimsonvor 2 Monaten

I was just gonna say rounding

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Nitro Wolf 902 - 3D Artistvor 2 Monaten

Bro where were you when I was in high school

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DarioD22_vor 2 Monaten

Another easier way to approach this problem, and my personal favorite, is with fractions: 1/3 = 0.333... 0.333... × 3 = 0.999... 1/3 × 3 = 3/3 = 1 0.999... = 1

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Dusty Kowboyvor 2 Monaten

great! now, divide by zero and make it work

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RahzahkTheGnollvor 2 Monaten

I was completely unaware that if I wanted to learn math, I needed it to be taught by a furry femboy in vr chat. The More You Know🌈

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SmokeyMoonvor 2 Monaten

Great vid

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arkveld enjoyervor 2 Monaten

So I kinda have a question: Mainly, can we actually assign a variable to an infinitely repeating number like that and have it behave like a normal number? I can't help but feel like assigning a variable would have to mean that there'd need to be a definite number of 9's

Profilbild von 🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵vor 2 Monaten

There's plenty of instances in math where we assign variables to infinite expansions & series. It actually helps us find solutions for these problems. Also, we dont have to assign a variable to 0.999 for this to work. We can write it out without saying x (it's just inefficient)

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🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵vor 2 Monaten

(0.999...) + (0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) +(0.999...) = 9.999.... That's ten 0.999...s, So, 10 × (0.999...) = (9.999...) 10 × (0.999...) = (9 + 0.999...) (minus 0.999... from both sides) 9 × (0.999...) = 9

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Zylex SquishyPawsvor 2 Monaten

Furry math is the best:3

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Binkvor 2 Monaten

I can't remember the last time the transitive property was relevant, much less to resolve an apparent contradiction...but this looks like it checks out. o.o

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Fawxy Venturesvor 2 Monaten

If you torture numbers enough, it will confess to anything.

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𝕵𝕵𝕯vor 2 Monaten

I pray for a day that a math teacher pulls out video like this

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🔞 🔞vor 2 Monaten

My god how far I would excel in math if all my math professors were this cute

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Styxvor 2 Monaten

The end blooper is so relatable 😂😂😂

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Aleksi the bunny // Floradinn OC WIPvor 2 Monaten

w pull

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Lil Bit Salty.vor 2 Monaten

i learn something new everyday.

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Henry IIIvor 2 Monaten

This fucking guy is better than my math teacher😭

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JustNia 🦇vor 2 Monaten

Holy shit

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Clover @ Homevor 1 Monat

A lot of people who have never taken a college math class getting real confident in the replies. Especially the people claiming that you're wrong because they think 10*0.999... would actually be 9.99 not 9.999 without realizing that it's infinite decimals.

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Zyrozvor 2 Monaten

Please teach me curvature and torsion

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Kenneth The Batvor 2 Monaten

Please more math!

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moni 🇧🇬vor 2 Monaten

10x0,999=9,99 so 9x=9,99-0,999 which is equal to 8,991 so this is really fucking incorrect

Profilbild von 🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵
🌸 Wren 🌸 🩵vor 2 Monaten

It's correct. It's an infinite decimal. Its not just 0.999 hard stop. It's 0.9̅9̅9̅. It repeats forever. 0.999999999..... (infinite nines)

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