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Most data centers built today use a closed-loop cooling system, meaning they use a fraction of the water of a golf course. We separate fact from online misinformation on the latest episode of Verdict.. The Chinese Communists Caught Spending Big Bucks Trying to Make You Hate Data Centers, plus... show more

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