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Most data centers still use evaporative cooling, and “closed loop” does not mean zero water use. Data Centers are going to crucify the @GOP 😂

Its the push to intrude on rural communities and farmland that has people up in arms. There is no shortage of industrial zones, abandoned K marts and out of business car dealerships in Texas. Put them there. Leave the farms alone

Ted, I’ve voted for you every election since you jumped in that first Senate Primary. Sir you’re starting to piss me off. There are legitimate concerns when it comes to these Data Centers and how they impact not only the Environment but how they impact citizens. For you to discount any concerns or opposition to these Data Centers as Chinese Bots and misinformation is doing a big disservice to your Constituents and frankly beneath you. I expect better from you.

@KristenMeghan please clown this fool

Imagine the ROI for replacing congress with a tiny datacenter? It would use less water and energy than you parasites and cost way less to operate as well.

It's not China, it's Zero explination on why we need so many, why they have to be built in our communities, and what the real long-term health hazards these monstrosities pose?! Plus you, our entire system from the Media, to government at every level, Lie all the Fucking Time and We No Longer Trust You!

Grok disagrees Ted

We have found the perfect spot for the next Data Center 👇

The closed loop, circulating chilled water, is supported by a chiller plant, which is dependent on an open-loop system. The open loop is circulated through cooling towers, which evaporate and also must bleed off some of the water to prevent scaling of the condensers. That is a significant omission of water usage by ANY chilled water cooling system. There are air-to-air condensers, which are less efficient and require a larger refrigerant charge.

@1776Libertarian Indiana gave AWS tax breaks for their data center. Republicans lose because the Senate is too lazy to pass any kind of legislation on immigration. The American people automatically reject data centers on principal because your donors said fuck you Americans.

Notice how Cruz, Abbott, and Patrick always reinforce THEIR agenda and ignore the will of Texans. Instead of listening to Texans, he’s trying to prove you wrong.

At least be 100% honest about what youre saying

They have all been given their marching orders! They're all saying the same shit. We've already heard from the citizens who live next to these data centers. I am one of them. Tell me why my water and electricity are up more than double. Oh wait! This must be %D Chess🖕

Just say you want mass surveillance.

Actually 70%+ of datacenters use open loop evaporative systems and even if they are closed loop - that’s not a cure all. Closed loop systems still have to be bled frequently with new freshwater to remove all of the toxic buildup from leaving water in there for too long. So tired of all the lies around this. You wanna build data centers? Cool - put them where it makes sense. Where there is abundant water and not community pushback.

China didn't convince me of anything. I think for MYSELF. Don't insult my intelligence. Stop making up stories trying to make them sound great. I hate them, I don't want them. I will fight against them and nothing is going to change my mind.

They are still as loud as your your wife Heidi during a fun evening in bed, likely louder.

@TSPcorner

Yes Ted. Closed loop cooling. But what cools the closed loop? Answer: cooling towers, chillers, direct circulating water or a dry cooler. Also, a gigawatt size power plant uses water about equal to feedwater flow. Don't try to hide the truth with fake expertise. Ask the engineers.

hey dumb ass, its not the water its the electricity. come to temple tx and see what the fuck is happening. 4 data centers in the city limits. it has doubled the cost of electricity. move them near where you live in houston

I also don't want any golf courses that threaten the power grid, increase sound pollution, and encourage more companies to degrade their products with AI.

Give us one good reason we should trust Big Tech. They've lied and spied. Congress has passed near zero protection for average citizens. You let them steal our data and personal info. We have zero privacy protection and you're good with that. Unless Congress changes all that you haven't begun to see the pushback you're going to get.

Ted Aviv and Smuggles the Clown here h8 America.

By the way SoftheadTed, I love Texas(all of it), my German Great Grandparents settled in Fredericksburg in the early 1900's! You are helping fuck up the beauty of TEXAS and America. Once SrarGate gets up to full scale, the only ones safe from AI catastrophe, are you oligarical asswipes! Mmmm.... why are Celebrities and Techno-Nazis building lavish underground bunkers🤔

I swear, I should've been a tree hugging hippy. Not one damn care about the misplaced animals, noise pollution or the unsightly buildings. When you scrape up dirt and pour more concrete, that something that doesn't come back. Less grass, more concrete equals no place for water to runoff in the spring and temperatures rise in concrete jungles. Houston, look at Houston. It floods often. I'll agree to discuss data centers when and if they agree that NONE are built on rural land. Until then, pound sand, Ted.

@MaxNordau You’re full of shit. They use more water than golf courses and they can’t use recycled water like golf courses do. Here’s a test. Would you rather have a golf course view or a view of a million square foot noisy factory that employs fewer than 100 people?

I think this is mainly a revolt against local elected officials and them appearing bribed more than anything.

Do you really think China isn’t using the “data centers” in the U.S.?

So build them on golf courses!

They could use closed loop but most do not. We don’t need this many data centers. Why so many and whom are they for? As the cost of compute goes down and the capability increases why?