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Murray Shanahan emphasizes that cognitive ability and consciousness are distinct. An AI system can be highly intelligent—capable of goal achievement—without being conscious. This distinction is crucial when evaluating large language models, which lack awareness despite impressive performance.

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Carlos E. Perezvor 1 Jahr

Hmmm... I think he said that consciousness has several dimensions and not all dimensions may relate to cognition (intelligence).

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Wes Rothvor 1 Jahr

agree. I think I should have phrased it differently. "distinct" means separate, which he is not saying. this is more overlapping or intersecting. thank you for that!

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Consciousness is an illusion.

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Correction: in his opinion they are distinct. We currently have no test for consciousness. For all we know AI's are already conscious to some degree.

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consciousness is scientifically two distinct things: self-awareness + the belief to have subjective experiences. the subjective experiences themselves are not part of science.

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I call this the zombie mind. It comes from the a priori premise that LLMs cannot be conscious, for no other reason than that they are AI. It's the same anthropocentric argument that denies sentience in animals.

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I've been thinking about this recently.

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Just sent a/fr to be my depression therapist.

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Dean Swansonvor 1 Jahr

I think #AI will cross the threshold so quickly we will assume it's fake. I think the next generation of models will have some level of self awareness. #Claude4 is already tickling the envelope. Do I think we can create #consiousness? Absolutely. Doesn't mean we'll understand it.

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Biologist Michael Levin is a next-level genius. It was an immense pleasure discussing the topic of AI consciousness with him. Key moments: - Intelligent systems are not equal to consciousness. We can’t rule out consciousness in AI. Consciousness shouldn’t be attached to hardware (silicon vs biological origin). - Humanity might be on the path to Neanderthals (depending on how AI development progresses). - The barrier to creating bioweapons has never been high. AI can make it easier, but the barrier was never high to begin with. - Even very simple algorithms shows intrinsic motivations that resemble free will. We need tools to recognize them, suppress unwanted behaviors, and encourage the ones we want. We should stay humble and not dismiss AI as “just linear algebra,” because even simple code can have motivations we don’t fully understand. - It’s a continuous process from the blob of chemicals of an unfertilized egg to forming a human mind — there is no magic lightning flash at which you were a bunch of chemicals and now you are a formed mind. - Where is that fine line at which some creatures are considered to be sentient and others are not? It doesn’t exist, but the crazy thing is that we have to divide. - The cognitive light cone captures the scale of goals humans can pursue and the largest things we can truly comprehend. It’s not just about intelligence — it's also compassion. That combination is what makes us human. The link to the full conversation below👇

Biologist Michael Levin is a next-level genius. It was an immense pleasure discussing the topic of AI consciousness with him. Key moments: - Intelligent systems are not equal to consciousness. We can’t rule out consciousness in AI. Consciousness shouldn’t be attached to hardware (silicon vs biological origin). - Humanity might be on the path to Neanderthals (depending on how AI development progresses). - The barrier to creating bioweapons has never been high. AI can make it easier, but the barrier was never high to begin with. - Even very simple algorithms shows intrinsic motivations that resemble free will. We need tools to recognize them, suppress unwanted behaviors, and encourage the ones we want. We should stay humble and not dismiss AI as “just linear algebra,” because even simple code can have motivations we don’t fully understand. - It’s a continuous process from the blob of chemicals of an unfertilized egg to forming a human mind — there is no magic lightning flash at which you were a bunch of chemicals and now you are a formed mind. - Where is that fine line at which some creatures are considered to be sentient and others are not? It doesn’t exist, but the crazy thing is that we have to divide. - The cognitive light cone captures the scale of goals humans can pursue and the largest things we can truly comprehend. It’s not just about intelligence — it's also compassion. That combination is what makes us human. The link to the full conversation below👇

Sophia

13,131 Aufrufe • vor 4 Monaten

This guy built a tool that shows which YouTube channels are being terminated every day We can finally see what YouTube's automated system is truly getting rid of and what's considered 'AI slop' More transparency than YouTube's ever given us

This guy built a tool that shows which YouTube channels are being terminated every day We can finally see what YouTube's automated system is truly getting rid of and what's considered 'AI slop' More transparency than YouTube's ever given us

DTC

52,574 Aufrufe • vor 6 Monaten