My conversation with Sean Bowe (Sean Bowe) and Dev (Dev) on the architecture of freedom. 0:00 - Why Dev’s working on Zcash 12:24 - AI is surveillance’s ultimate weapon 13:33 - Encrypted money must scale 15:49 - Compliant “privacy” is an oxymoron 19:25 - PIR for scaling Zcash 36:35... - How Tachyon and PIR work hand in hand 43:47 - Quantum recoverability 47:18 - Is quantum the last cryptography problem? 51:41 - Easier coinholder voting process 1:03:15 - Zcash roadmap 1:17:34 - What Zcash looks like at scaleshow more

@ebfull @zkDragon Dev is one of the best people in crypto. The generational talent migration to Zcash should be studied

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@paulbrigner @ebfull @zkDragon So nice to have @zkDragon back on podcasts, I always learn something

@ebfull @zkDragon hot take: Compliant 'privacy' is an oxymoron, but can Zcash really scale without some level of compromise? this didn't work for me

@ebfull @zkDragon Compliant privacy is an oxymoron. That one hits.

@ebfull @zkDragon "AI is surveillance ultimate weapon" and "compliant privacy is an oxymoron" — both in one conversation. QANDY verdict: Zcash is building the financial immune system for the AI era. The timing of this research is not accidental.

@ebfull @zkDragon “AI is surveillance’s ultimate weapon” is the line that sticks. If that’s true, then scaling private systems like Zcash isn’t niche — it’s foundational to digital freedom. The real debate isn’t privacy vs compliance… it’s control vs autonomy.

@ebfull @zkDragon Privacy and encrypted money aren't just technical features; they are the fundamental pillars of individual sovereignty in the 2026 era. Architecture of freedom is the ultimate roadmap.

@naval @ebfull @zkDragon Oh wow, how come less then 1k views on YouTube. Thanks for the beautiful content!

@ebfull @zkDragon The encrypted money angle matters for payment engineers. Cross-border rails between Nigeria and Canada pass through multiple correspondent banks, each adding metadata and friction. Privacy at the protocol level changes what's architecturally possible for financial inclusion.

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@ebfull @zkDragon @zkDragon is very bright! So happy to see him pursuing tech he’s passionate on.

@ebfull @zkDragon This looks like a must-watch for anyone who cares about privacy and scalable cryptography. The focus on PIR, quantum recoverability, and what Zcash looks like at scale adds real depth beyond the usual narratives around private money and regulation

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@ebfull @zkDragon "compliant privacy is an oxymoron" is the line that needs to be quoted until people internalize it. privacy with an off switch isn't privacy.

@ebfull @zkDragon Already happening in physical space. Shenzhen has humanoid security bots with facial recognition deployed in malls and metro stations. Seoul subway runs patrol robots with thermal+visual sensors. The surveillance stack is going embodied faster than most realize.

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@zkDragon @ebfull Is a change to the PoW hashing algo necessary to make it PQ?

@ebfull @zkDragon We will no longer need to own to be provided for. But what happens when the emptiness remains? Will we start to control others?

@ebfull @zkDragon Powerful tech without privacy becomes control. With it, it becomes freedom.

@ebfull @zkDragon The surveillance vs. privacy asymmetry is one of the more underappreciated structural tensions in AI development. Encrypted money is one piece, but the harder problem is encrypted activity at scale. Zcash is doing interesting work on the cryptographic side of that.

@naval @ebfull @zkDragon Without structure, effort doesn’t scale.

@ebfull @zkDragon The "compliant privacy is an oxymoron" point is the crux of the whole debate. Real privacy has to be structural, not permissioned.

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@ebfull @zkDragon interesting insights on Zcash!

, we're taking a similar shielded + ZK approach (UTXO-style privacy by default) but layering it on any EVM chain for DeFi, payments, and dApps. Selective verifiable disclosure lets us keep real privacy for good actors while flagging bad ones – no backdoors, just scalable compliance that actually works.

@ebfull @zkDragon This is exactly why financial education needs to be mandatory. Most people figure this out 10 years too late.

@ebfull @zkDragon @naval - Great conversation. I have a doc: Flagging a systems-level failure that intersects directly with most of what you're already worried about This connects AI scaling + coordination failure + incentive misalignment in a way that changes the trajectory. DM - 10 min read

@naval @ebfull @zkDragon Most people confuse activity with progress.

@ebfull @zkDragon The scaling paradox: privacy tech that requires trusts to function isn't privacy, it's obfuscation. True freedom architecture needs privacy at base layer, not bolted on compliance.

@ebfull @zkDragon @arjunkhemani The breakdown is deep, can't wait to hear why Dev's working on Zcash at 0:00 and AI surveillance angle at 12:24

@ebfull @zkDragon Btw, we track Chinese AI & deep tech deals weekly — happy to share our digest ↩️