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Why your coins are safe from AI and quantum: FULL PANEL with mert Illia (root.near) (🇺🇦, ⋈) Dev and Tulip King 🌷 1:37 Threadguy explains the cryptography panic 5:29 why cryptography hasn’t broken 9:04 how close is AI to cracking it? 15:39 upgrading chains for quantum 26:30 what if... show more

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threadguy16 hours ago

Watch on YT!

ShadowAguy16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking a full panel that says your coins are safe and then spends the back half on what if and upgrading chains.

Josep Kingsley 🦀16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking Welp!

Neuromancer15 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking Have any of you operated a quantum computer before, fabbed some qubits, set up a dilution fridge, trapped an ion or built quantum readout hardware in a lab?

neverlucky16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking Those mfers aren’t 1% as smart as AI continues to get. 100% crypto is in trouble.

Snibby16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking will try to watch this by myself

Jack16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking 😮‍💨

ihatechris15 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking cc @nic_carter, thoughts?

Joe16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking satoshi's stack still untouched so i'm not panicking

Suvo14 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking Cryptography panic content that actually talks to the people who'd know. Bookmarking this one

lena16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking safe is a stretch. every solana address is literally an ed25519 pubkey, so if shor ever runs at scale there's no hashed address layer to hide behind like unspent p2pkh btc

Peace Through Trade16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking Nice discussions here.

Martinez16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking Cant wait to finally give this a watch! 🔥

Macro Bombastic16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking tbh the smart contract hacks part is what keeps me up at night

dongbaek2🟧16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking i faded the quantum panic all week and a full panel of builders just confirmed it. lmao

uncle B · 🐂🀄️dev · AI16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking upgrades are the whole game at 15:39 chains that migrated signatures early don't need the panic the rest are hoping nobody asks

brewer16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking quantum fud is the new rotation narrative. wake me when an actual wallet gets cracked

HiddenCharacter16 hours ago

@counterpartytv @mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking that Naruto reference 👌

Tops🐐16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking my seed phrase is in apple notes so quantum's gonna have to wait in line

Angel ✦16 hours ago

@mert @ilblackdragon @zkDragon @tulipking the 34:03 bit is the real takeaway, ai hacks are the actual threat while everyone panics about quantum breaking crypto

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Bunker mode or calm down? Justin Drake and Vitalik Buterin split on how urgently to act on AI's threat to wallet cryptography "Ethereum researcher Justin Drake tells crypto investors to enter bunker mode. That sounds bad. You ever watch Silo? I don't want to live there." "Justin Drake urged preparation for possible AI-assisted mathematical breakthroughs that could undermine widely used wallet cryptography. He said the worst case could happen within months." "He's basically making the point that AI is so good at math now that we can't take for granted the fact that our cryptography and the math behind it, having nothing to do with quantum, should not be questioned and is not at risk." "Coinbase cryptography head Yehuda Lindell pushed back, saying there was no evidence that the underlying mathematical security assumptions had weakened. Vitalik Buterin stepped in and said, we should take this risk very seriously. This is a real risk, but don't start moving to new wallets yet." "It's important that we understand the potential risks and don't just dismiss everything as FUD or nonsense. We've seen AI hacking things all along, but there is no evidence as of yet that AI can, through math, hack or disavow the underlying assumptions of mathematical cryptography." "This is going to be probably the next horizon. This is a serious disagreement over our preparedness for what's coming. But we also don't want to panic and go nuts and make bad decisions."

Bunker mode or calm down? Justin Drake and Vitalik Buterin split on how urgently to act on AI's threat to wallet cryptography "Ethereum researcher Justin Drake tells crypto investors to enter bunker mode. That sounds bad. You ever watch Silo? I don't want to live there." "Justin Drake urged preparation for possible AI-assisted mathematical breakthroughs that could undermine widely used wallet cryptography. He said the worst case could happen within months." "He's basically making the point that AI is so good at math now that we can't take for granted the fact that our cryptography and the math behind it, having nothing to do with quantum, should not be questioned and is not at risk." "Coinbase cryptography head Yehuda Lindell pushed back, saying there was no evidence that the underlying mathematical security assumptions had weakened. Vitalik Buterin stepped in and said, we should take this risk very seriously. This is a real risk, but don't start moving to new wallets yet." "It's important that we understand the potential risks and don't just dismiss everything as FUD or nonsense. We've seen AI hacking things all along, but there is no evidence as of yet that AI can, through math, hack or disavow the underlying assumptions of mathematical cryptography." "This is going to be probably the next horizon. This is a serious disagreement over our preparedness for what's coming. But we also don't want to panic and go nuts and make bad decisions."

The Wolf Of All Streets

19,584 views • 6 days ago

Conversation with nic carter to discuss the quantum risk for crypto, Ai math advancements, Satoshi's warning, and what comes next. 00:00 Intro 00:50 Bitcoin Investor Unrest 02:08 Finding Risks and Ideas Early 05:36 Why Bitcoin Needs Upgrade 07:10 Satoshi Warning About Quantum 10:06 What Quantum Computers Can Break 12:41 Crypto Market Examples 16:14 Lessons from the Bitcoin Cash Fork 17:49 The Unavoidable Risk for Bitcoin 19:54 Race Between China and US 22:01 The Base Case: Who Gets the BTC 25:21 Why BlackRock or Coinbase Can't Help 29:48 Michael Saylor Opinion of Quantum 34:29 Warning from Google 36:01 Are Altcoins like ZEC or ETH Safe? 38:20 How Markets Could React 41:22 Could This Boost Price 44:01 The Scariest Part About Quantum Risk 47:16 Is it Already Too Late? 48:41 How Ai is Accelerating Risk 50:08 What Happens Next

Conversation with nic carter to discuss the quantum risk for crypto, Ai math advancements, Satoshi's warning, and what comes next. 00:00 Intro 00:50 Bitcoin Investor Unrest 02:08 Finding Risks and Ideas Early 05:36 Why Bitcoin Needs Upgrade 07:10 Satoshi Warning About Quantum 10:06 What Quantum Computers Can Break 12:41 Crypto Market Examples 16:14 Lessons from the Bitcoin Cash Fork 17:49 The Unavoidable Risk for Bitcoin 19:54 Race Between China and US 22:01 The Base Case: Who Gets the BTC 25:21 Why BlackRock or Coinbase Can't Help 29:48 Michael Saylor Opinion of Quantum 34:29 Warning from Google 36:01 Are Altcoins like ZEC or ETH Safe? 38:20 How Markets Could React 41:22 Could This Boost Price 44:01 The Scariest Part About Quantum Risk 47:16 Is it Already Too Late? 48:41 How Ai is Accelerating Risk 50:08 What Happens Next

Luke Martin

92,345 views • 1 day ago

FULL INTERVIEW: Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky joins TBPN to discuss recent earnings, founder mode, the future of consumer AI, marketing, and more. 01:04 How Airbnb got its startup energy back 03:40 Founder mode and fixing one corner of the business at a time 06:14 How Chesky would disrupt Airbnb today 07:18 Why chatbots are wrong for travel 09:37 The SaaSpocalypse and AI interfaces 12:25 Why everyone is building enterprise AI 17:05 Why consumer AI hasn’t broken out yet 18:15 Why Silicon Valley keeps chasing trends 23:08 Advice for designers in the AI era 31:43 Why different marketing works best

FULL INTERVIEW: Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky joins TBPN to discuss recent earnings, founder mode, the future of consumer AI, marketing, and more. 01:04 How Airbnb got its startup energy back 03:40 Founder mode and fixing one corner of the business at a time 06:14 How Chesky would disrupt Airbnb today 07:18 Why chatbots are wrong for travel 09:37 The SaaSpocalypse and AI interfaces 12:25 Why everyone is building enterprise AI 17:05 Why consumer AI hasn’t broken out yet 18:15 Why Silicon Valley keeps chasing trends 23:08 Advice for designers in the AI era 31:43 Why different marketing works best

TBPN

15,497 views • 5 months ago

“Only two steps” required to make Bitcoin quantum-resistant? In this Unchained episode, Matt Corallo 🟠 joins me to discuss: ❌ Why he thinks Nic Carter is wrong about the quantum threat to Bitcoin ⛔ Why he disagrees with Nic on his ranking of Bitcoin’s most influential developers 😱 Why “the community at that time” will deal with the quantum threat 🥷 Why making bitcoin post-quantum might require a block size increase 🔥 Why he believes “you burn old lost coins, you burn anyone who hasn't migrated” Timestamps: 🚀0:00 Introduction ⚔️02:16 What Matt says Nic is getting wrong about the quantum threat to Bitcoin 🤔08:59 What Matt says Bitcoin's quantum security roadmap could look like 🫠19:04 Do Bitcoin Core developers have any timelines? 🤯29:34 Are there only two steps required to quantum-proof Bitcoin? 📍34:04 Matt weighs in on public comments from other Bitcoin developers on the quantum threat ⁉️47:37 Why Bitcoin Core has not announced a quantum team 👀53:57 Can BlackRock “fire” Bitcoin developers? 💫58:07 What Matt says is the North Star for Bitcoin developers 🔥1:07:42 What Matt thinks will happen to lost bitcoins 🤔1:08:26 Is there any plan to secure Bitcoin against AI? 👀1:11:31 Will Bitcoin and Ethereum align on quantum security?

“Only two steps” required to make Bitcoin quantum-resistant? In this Unchained episode, Matt Corallo 🟠 joins me to discuss: ❌ Why he thinks Nic Carter is wrong about the quantum threat to Bitcoin ⛔ Why he disagrees with Nic on his ranking of Bitcoin’s most influential developers 😱 Why “the community at that time” will deal with the quantum threat 🥷 Why making bitcoin post-quantum might require a block size increase 🔥 Why he believes “you burn old lost coins, you burn anyone who hasn't migrated” Timestamps: 🚀0:00 Introduction ⚔️02:16 What Matt says Nic is getting wrong about the quantum threat to Bitcoin 🤔08:59 What Matt says Bitcoin's quantum security roadmap could look like 🫠19:04 Do Bitcoin Core developers have any timelines? 🤯29:34 Are there only two steps required to quantum-proof Bitcoin? 📍34:04 Matt weighs in on public comments from other Bitcoin developers on the quantum threat ⁉️47:37 Why Bitcoin Core has not announced a quantum team 👀53:57 Can BlackRock “fire” Bitcoin developers? 💫58:07 What Matt says is the North Star for Bitcoin developers 🔥1:07:42 What Matt thinks will happen to lost bitcoins 🤔1:08:26 Is there any plan to secure Bitcoin against AI? 👀1:11:31 Will Bitcoin and Ethereum align on quantum security?

Laura Shin

19,795 views • 7 months ago

WATCH: Is Google's Quantum Breakthrough a Threat to Bitcoin? | Bitcoin Policy Hour Ep 33 🇺🇸 A new Google whitepaper has accelerated the timeline for Q-Day, potentially putting Bitcoin wallet security at risk to quantum computing as early as 2029. The Bitcoin Policy Institute team breaks down the quantum threat, geopolitical strategy, and why "not your keys, not your coins" has never been more real. Feat. @bitconpolicy 's Zack Cohen Zack Shapiro Bayman11771 Sam Lyman Luke Danielian Chapters: 4:45 — Google's Quantum Paper 9:16 — Why Q-Day Is Closer Than We Thought 12:48 — Qubits Explained: Logical vs Physical 18:12 — Vulnerable Bitcoin Addresses 20:15 — Stakeholder Map 26:21 — Not Your Keys Not Your Coins 30:14 — Migration Windows and Coinbase Rewards 37:34 — Could Gov'ts Hijack Bitcoin's Quantum Fix? 46:04 — Government's Role in Quantum Defense 51:05 — AI Tools Update

WATCH: Is Google's Quantum Breakthrough a Threat to Bitcoin? | Bitcoin Policy Hour Ep 33 🇺🇸 A new Google whitepaper has accelerated the timeline for Q-Day, potentially putting Bitcoin wallet security at risk to quantum computing as early as 2029. The Bitcoin Policy Institute team breaks down the quantum threat, geopolitical strategy, and why "not your keys, not your coins" has never been more real. Feat. @bitconpolicy 's Zack Cohen Zack Shapiro Bayman11771 Sam Lyman Luke Danielian Chapters: 4:45 — Google's Quantum Paper 9:16 — Why Q-Day Is Closer Than We Thought 12:48 — Qubits Explained: Logical vs Physical 18:12 — Vulnerable Bitcoin Addresses 20:15 — Stakeholder Map 26:21 — Not Your Keys Not Your Coins 30:14 — Migration Windows and Coinbase Rewards 37:34 — Could Gov'ts Hijack Bitcoin's Quantum Fix? 46:04 — Government's Role in Quantum Defense 51:05 — AI Tools Update

Bitcoin Magazine

35,497 views • 6 months ago

Can a sufficiently powerful quantum computer forge the signatures used to authorize Bitcoin and Ethereum transactions? What would it take to upgrade both networks before that happens? In this new lecture, Stanford cryptographer Dan Boneh explores why blockchains may turn to signatures built from hash functions. He also presents new research on threshold signing. The talk ends with the questions Bitcoin still has to answer, including whether post-quantum signatures will require larger blocks, what happens to abandoned coins, and how someone such as Satoshi could prove ownership after Bitcoin’s current signatures have been retired. 00:00 Why blockchains need to prepare for quantum computers 03:05 Why Bitcoin may bet on hash-based signatures 06:25 The “big footgun” in stateful signatures 08:58 A quantum-safe signature that takes one billion hashes 14:13 Inside SLH-DSA’s virtual tree 20:30 How Bitcoin and Ethereum could make the switch 23:48 What happens when a wallet loses its state? 32:47 Can threshold signing survive the quantum transition? 36:39 How to hide lattice cryptography from the blockchain 38:49 Why threshold one-time signatures seem impossible 45:36 How context prevents forged signatures 49:37 The forgotten idea behind Winternitz signatures 54:50 Turning one-time signatures into threshold signatures 1:04:27 Will quantum-safe signatures require bigger Bitcoin blocks? 1:06:26 Abandoned bitcoin and Satoshi’s recovery problem

Can a sufficiently powerful quantum computer forge the signatures used to authorize Bitcoin and Ethereum transactions? What would it take to upgrade both networks before that happens? In this new lecture, Stanford cryptographer Dan Boneh explores why blockchains may turn to signatures built from hash functions. He also presents new research on threshold signing. The talk ends with the questions Bitcoin still has to answer, including whether post-quantum signatures will require larger blocks, what happens to abandoned coins, and how someone such as Satoshi could prove ownership after Bitcoin’s current signatures have been retired. 00:00 Why blockchains need to prepare for quantum computers 03:05 Why Bitcoin may bet on hash-based signatures 06:25 The “big footgun” in stateful signatures 08:58 A quantum-safe signature that takes one billion hashes 14:13 Inside SLH-DSA’s virtual tree 20:30 How Bitcoin and Ethereum could make the switch 23:48 What happens when a wallet loses its state? 32:47 Can threshold signing survive the quantum transition? 36:39 How to hide lattice cryptography from the blockchain 38:49 Why threshold one-time signatures seem impossible 45:36 How context prevents forged signatures 49:37 The forgotten idea behind Winternitz signatures 54:50 Turning one-time signatures into threshold signatures 1:04:27 Will quantum-safe signatures require bigger Bitcoin blocks? 1:06:26 Abandoned bitcoin and Satoshi’s recovery problem

a16z crypto

120,741 views • 1 month ago

Tim Roughgarden, mathematician at Institute for Advanced Study and head of research at a16z Crypto, on quantum computing, blockchain as a laboratory for social science, and AI transforming mathematics right now the way it transformed coding six months ago. 1:35 — The story from Turing to 2026 3:43 — Quantum was "25 years away" for 25 years, then something changed 4:25 — Q-Day prediction + Shor's algorithm + how to spot a quantum agenda 6:37 — Positive quantum applications + we're not doomed on cryptography 9:16 — Post-quantum migration is a coordination problem 12:22 — Blockchain as a laboratory for social science 15:50 — The sociology big bang analogy 17:37 — Computation is a law of nature 19:56 — AI is transforming mathematics right now 25:54 — Start with what you want to build Tim Roughgarden

Tim Roughgarden, mathematician at Institute for Advanced Study and head of research at a16z Crypto, on quantum computing, blockchain as a laboratory for social science, and AI transforming mathematics right now the way it transformed coding six months ago. 1:35 — The story from Turing to 2026 3:43 — Quantum was "25 years away" for 25 years, then something changed 4:25 — Q-Day prediction + Shor's algorithm + how to spot a quantum agenda 6:37 — Positive quantum applications + we're not doomed on cryptography 9:16 — Post-quantum migration is a coordination problem 12:22 — Blockchain as a laboratory for social science 15:50 — The sociology big bang analogy 17:37 — Computation is a law of nature 19:56 — AI is transforming mathematics right now 25:54 — Start with what you want to build Tim Roughgarden

MTS

13,634 views • 2 months ago