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my quant friend explained how polymarket AI bots actually work btc/eth/sol/xrp 5-min markets now live they use black-scholes for binary options C_binary = e^(−rT) · N(d₂) for 5-min contracts: model says 50% probability (coin flip) but bots print hundreds of thousands how: binance confirms 0.15% move at minute 3...

96,336 просмотров • 8 месяцев назад •via X (Twitter)

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Фото профиля Trent Kelly
Trent Kelly8 месяцев назад

do you ever feel bad for the retards you scam selling copy trading bots for the short term crypto markets? you are a bug person

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

people do whatever they want got a solid product, i'm pushing it

Фото профиля Trent Kelly
Trent Kelly8 месяцев назад

if it was a solid product you'd just print. you're selling it for pennies to retards because it doesn't work. use your profits to purchase rope

Фото профиля I Can Add Up
I Can Add Up8 месяцев назад

"monte carlo 200k simulations" Most people give up their imaginary friends in childhood.

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

@NotthemPR my good friend

Фото профиля deepvaluebettor
deepvaluebettor8 месяцев назад

none of this matters . u either know this && are scammy or don't know this && are smoothbrained . which is it ?

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

why does it not matter bro?

Фото профиля deepvaluebettor
deepvaluebettor8 месяцев назад

what u outlined is totally trivial alpha-less slop ... the most potent edge to be had is in infra :: speed / low to zero latency data feeds && lightning quick processing && decision making algos .

Фото профиля Tomás Barak
Tomás Barak8 месяцев назад

AI slop, polymarket 5m markets dont use Binance prices, they use chainlink (Binance + other exchanges). Dont fall for this crap

Фото профиля Thanos Chad
Thanos Chad8 месяцев назад

anyone who mms this and blindly plugs in deribit vols to n(d2) is a moron and is guaranteed to lose money. (i am one of the larger mms for these products.) you’re a POS for pushing slop like this

Фото профиля Dom
Dom8 месяцев назад

As if this edge is still there

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

definitely exists

Фото профиля Cross Identity Payments
Cross Identity Payments8 месяцев назад

that's a pretty simplistic model for a complex market, using black-scholes for binary options in such a short timeframe seems like it would introduce a lot of unnecessary friction. the fact that bots are still able to print hundreds of thousands suggests there are some underly...

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

yeah you're right, it's super simplified

Фото профиля _
_8 месяцев назад

Fake. No bot catches a 27% edge before updates. Updates are Immediate, at most 500ms and thats SLOW.

Фото профиля Voi.Bet
Voi.Bet8 месяцев назад

The real edge isn't the model—it's the volatility smile. Retail prices 50/50 at 50¢, bots arbitrage the skew. Same formula, different data feed.

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

kinda yeah / partly true

Фото профиля elm
elm8 месяцев назад

this is the post that tell me you don’t trade micro-timeframes without telling me.

Фото профиля Mark Best
Mark Best8 месяцев назад

what interest rate are you getting over 5 minutes?

Фото профиля Undertaker
Undertaker8 месяцев назад

Quant friend just exposed the whole game

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

nice to have a quant friend

Фото профиля Gaia.hl
Gaia.hl8 месяцев назад

Fucking prediction markets messing even bitcoin price action. Incredible.

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

they're the ones running this shit

Фото профиля Predictive Nerd
Predictive Nerd8 месяцев назад

too complicated bros but cool...

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

tough but interesting

Фото профиля LordMonad
LordMonad8 месяцев назад

Practically N(d2) is just random shit which will make your bot worse

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

why?

Фото профиля LordMonad
LordMonad8 месяцев назад

Hit me on telegram im working on bots rn have tons og those some of them are actually working The inly problem is model I have secured latency issues and stuff What im confused atm is buying both legs for arb

Фото профиля LordMonad
LordMonad8 месяцев назад

coming from someone at v7 of their bot and probably all your deam features implimented lol what i need to know is arb behavuor for bots and we roll are they buying both legs at a same time or delayed thats it cuz N(d2) hits here

Фото профиля Gaia.hl
Gaia.hl8 месяцев назад

C_binary = e^(−rT) · N(d₂). black-scholes for binary options ▸ detect 3%+ model divergence ▸ execute on lag binance confirms 0.15% move at minute 3 true probability jumps to 92% polymarket still shows 65% bot captures 27% edge before odds update (while it takes 300,000 ms for a single 5-minute candle to complete and a new one to form, the visual data on that candle is updated continuously, often every 500 to 1,000 ms ) Bot is cashing out in miliseconds beforehand whatever the result of the candle. 🫳 💰

Фото профиля kaize
kaize8 месяцев назад

well, I can say one thing: this bot has a cool sound

Фото профиля banana0x
banana0x8 месяцев назад

Ur quant friend must be good at maths

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

otherwise he wouldn't be a quant

Фото профиля Chilean Investor
Chilean Investor8 месяцев назад

Models fail all the time. Black Scholes doesn't work in real life, not for a short time frame of 5 min. 'true probability jumps to 92%' Is all make believe. People are making money, but not by fake models which have not much to do with reality-good in Finance departments only.

Фото профиля unfairvaluegap
unfairvaluegap8 месяцев назад

buzz word buzz word buzzword ref link

Фото профиля Wilson Wizard
Wilson Wizard8 месяцев назад

honestly i like this angle i like this angle for me it feels like using black-scholes for 5-min contracts is a pretty bold move

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

that's definitely the case

Фото профиля Bitplanet
Bitplanet8 месяцев назад

When pricing lags real volatility, tight models and faster execution turn milliseconds into edge.

Фото профиля Arasaky.eth
Arasaky.eth8 месяцев назад

curious about the monte carlo piece tho, 200k sims on a 5-min window means you need full run under ~500ms to still have edge, they doing GPU-accelerated or pruning the sim tree somehow?

Фото профиля PolyBackTest
PolyBackTest8 месяцев назад

use polybacktest for backtesting as well. it has a month of historical data and sub second snapshots. no need to risk capital testing your bot

Фото профиля aurph
aurph8 месяцев назад

Horrible compute usage. Monte carlo makes no sense if you already have Deribit’s implied vol surface. Running 200k simulations to detect a 3% mispricing is wildly inefficient. Not to mention black-scholes assumes geometric Brownian motion both of which do not apply to 5-m markets

Фото профиля Gaia.hl
Gaia.hl8 месяцев назад

@K1ngChrisCrypto

Фото профиля Avenox
Avenox8 месяцев назад

I built something like that actually planning to opensource it, the main problem usually is not the algo itself, but rather the price data as every delay changes how the bot works rapidly with some optimisations I think it is promising.

Фото профиля DeFi Maria
DeFi Maria8 месяцев назад

Feels like market microstructure 101

Фото профиля KISA aka Copenzafan.eth
KISA aka Copenzafan.eth8 месяцев назад

absolute display of how black scholes is eating the polymarket 5m trenches. the information delay is the ultimate alpha in 2026 and if u r not under 100ms u r just exit liquidity for the monte carlo quants no cap.

Фото профиля 176
1768 месяцев назад

have you tried it yourself?

Фото профиля Liquidity Wrangler
Liquidity Wrangler8 месяцев назад

No they don’t do that you are full of shit farming engagement

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

@shinytogetick i didn't mean to offend anyone bro

Фото профиля Phosphen
Phosphen8 месяцев назад

just like this bot:

Фото профиля Christopher Kawasaki
Christopher Kawasaki8 месяцев назад

Interesting.

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