My response to everyone saying "react to the rivals patch" There is no point in reacting to -50 dmg or +20 healing on all of these heroes when the neutral fights dictate 20% of the outcomes and ults dictate 80% There has barely been one meaningful gameplay change since ALPHA

Me chilling playing the game then both team's supports ult at the same time to pause the game so i can go to the restroom real quick

LOL

Ult charge is what makes the game fun if you take that away it’ll ruin a lot of people’s enjoyment of the game. It’s a super hero game people want to superhero a lot

It’s not getting taken away

I do NOT wanna play with the changes you suggested 😭

Blade got a nerf which they called a buff lol

“Erm why are you still playing if you don’t like the balancing?” Rival niggas when they learn the concept of liking something while also criticizing it and wanting it to improve

Back at it again! I’ve reached out to guangguang to ensure ults stay this way so you can maintain a steady income.

When I’m at a “Being dissatisfied no matter what they do” competition and I see @SamitoFPS

Why are you still playing if there’s been no changes since Alpha?

Sorry, but what neutrals are there in Overwatch? Poke? Is that it? Call of Overwatch? Overwatch isn't a hero shooter anymore. It's a gun game. There are gun games with true neutral fights like the Finals. Overwatch is an FPS first unfortunately.

I didn’t mention Overwatch once

In the context of a neutral fight, what other games are there? Deadlock? Apex? Valorant? Two of those games are an FPS first, hero shooter-like later. And this is my question? What exactly is a neutral. Because to me it just sounds like getting kills without using abilities.

@SamitoFPS neutral does not mean without using abilties, its just the teamfight outside of ultimates, who controls what angles, who won what duels etc. this dosen't really matter in rivals unless someone feeds before the support ults come out.

@SamitoFPS And a neutral matters too much in Overwatch, no? If you lose a player in 5v5, the teamfight is basically lost because you just lost a player that managed an angle/space, especially if it is your tank that gets KO'd first.

@SamitoFPS Not necessarily, it's absolutely a disadvantage, it should be, but it can be compensated for if you have the ultimate advantage, maybe not even an advantage, maybe the player that died created an opening to get a winning trade by forcing CDs or displacing people from an angle.

@SamitoFPS could be just one ult to capitalise on this: if my Genji dies, but he forced Baptise's immortality field , maybe I can use gravitic flux to kill their backline before they stabilise, because maybe I realised, looking at their comp, that lamp was their only answer to a good flux.

@Atlashatesjews ^ depends on the ult you have, but either way based on how you play you have a chance of winning or losing that fight the windows of vulnerability are there on both sides

"barely made one meaningful change" after multiple hero additions and reworks...sure man. Maybe you wouldn't hold that opinion if you actually read the patch notes

I'll say it again and again. If you want the heavy neutral hero shooter game it already exists in the form of ow2. Mr is the spiritual successor of ow1 which was also heavily focused on Ults. I don't think there's any value in forcing mr to be more like ow2.

Imagine wanting super heroes to feel less super, maybe this is not the game for you lil bro... changing the speed of ultimate charge won't stop ultimate's from dictating fights

Nerfing ults gives more heroes MORE chances to play make, not less What’s the point of having ults if 80% of the time they stall out

yeah these buffs and nerfs will feel good in the nuetral but it dosent matter bc there is no nuetral in the game especially high level LOL they need to man up and do actuall big balance change that address the big problem

sam diving into the heart of rivals problem, say it with your chest bro

It’s more fun and faster paced with the the ult charge being low, gives opportunity to win 5&4 v 6 High ult charge slows the game dramatically less fights more waiting around for picked teammates to respawn (arguably more boring) but that does separate the skilled players from the garbage and ranked would be more balanced (less carried garbage in the high ranks) also counter picks EVERY GAME You’d get like 2 fights in control with higher ult and barely 2 each checkpoint of push (because someone WILL get picked)

Captain America will throw his shield every 6 seconds instead of 8. WOW

The problem with your complaints is you simply want it to be fixed to what you and you only want. The casual gamers are what keep games going, not streamers. They have focused the game to casual gamers. Good thing.

I dont know you and i already know what type of person you are in this community

Oh god is Marvel Rivals going through 5 patches of nothingness and then 1 patch that seems like it does something but still doesn’t? The community is gonna be warped on what is meta….

I couldn't agree more. Its the teamwork and skill amongst the team that really can make the game feel lopsided one way or another. The little buffs or nerfs I feel like a lot of time are just to appease the community outcry over stuff but long term doesn't affect much. At least in most cases.

Comment section is abysmal man, how can you think it’s fun having to go against an immortal team every 30 seconds? Ults are fine but like goodness it seems like an invis will ult 3 times before I get mine once on someone like spidey or strange lol

Ur telling me the 5 extra damage to bp spear isn’t going to shift the meta entirely?!?

someone doesn't like fun

I agree plus I think triple support will still be too strong with all the sustain and if they’re not gonna nerf it then atleast give us an additional ban on each team and remove duplicate bans.

it’s kinda crazy how some people think you’re wrong

This entire comment section is full of low rank npcs good christ

100% agree but there’s something that I feel would be a greater solution: We all know and agree that we don’t need role queue, we don’t need more damage, we don’t need more healing. We need to NUKE stats and increase ult charges for every character, ALL across the board.

Ok I’ll have to give u ur tens on this one

what % would you put OW2 at for neutrals and ult outcomes

Honestly 50-50 because you can outplay ults in that game way more consistently via kiting

The point of an ult is supposed to be game changing is it not?

It is, but it doesn’t need to be every 45 seconds and lasting for 10-15 Ults should also be special but they aren’t that special if they are up 24/7

Sam you’ve been getting a lot of heat lately but as a long time viewer I know you’re just trying your best to make a good product. I don’t necessarily always agree but you don’t deserve this amount of hate.

Stat changes also change ult charges, this is also not really true for most of ranked

I’ve always believed that ults should be happening like, 50% as often and the game would be perfect.

I agree. Don’t get me wrong, I love the iron fist buffs, but they could’ve gone about making him stronger through more nerfs on the overall roster however that may be, and re working his kit to be less limiting. I love it right now, but there could be so much more.

You're talking eternity/OAA type of matchmaking. All lower levels: with people who tend to miss, they don't farm ult that much. If it's useless, it's useless to you.!