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New Z.ai GLM-5.2 beats Kimi K2.7 Code on physics contest! We gave both models the same three prompts and asked them to build self contained HTML5 sims with real physics and no libraries: 1. Pool break 2. Block on a bed of springs 3. Galton board Outputs: GLM-5.2: 12,640...

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Open weight Kimi K3 performs at Claude Fable 5 level on 3D arcade games! We gave both models the same prompts: ✦ Pac-Man with four hunting ghosts ✦ Nokia Snake remade in 3D ✦ Retro space pinball table with real physics Outputs (thinking included): ✦ Kimi K3 (local, 8x B300): ~237K tokens, $0 ✦ Claude Fable 5: 92K tokens, $4.50 Every one of Kimi's tokens was free on our GPUs. Even via Moonshot's API the same Kimi run would be $3.60, still under Fable. Kimi held its quality against the strongest cloud model. Its snake is the liveliest scene of all six: soft shadows, floating dust, a flicking tongue, and a bot that checks it can still reach its own tail before every move. Fable's snake plays clean but looks flat next to it. Pac-Man is the closest call of the three. Kimi builds a fresh labyrinth on every restart and draws a live minimap in the corner while the red ghost tracks the player turn by turn through the corridors, and it even caught our bot on camera. Fable's maze answers with pearl pellets, +10 popups bursting over the floor and a wide-eyed cartoon ghost patrol. Fable won the pinball table: painted playfield art, a chrome ball that mirrors the neon lights, even little synth sound effects.

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Tried recreating Fall Guys using the exact same prompt with Claude Opus 5.0 (Claude Code) and Kimi K3 (Kimi CLI). Kimi K3 nailed the gameplay out of the box. Physics, movement, and the overall feel were surprisingly solid Opus 5.0 had a shinier UI, but movement was broken, it kept adding unnecessary visual effects, lagged during gameplay, and spent most of its time reiterating instead of converging Runtime and cost : - Kimi K3: ~9 min, ~$4.4 - Opus 5.0: ~17 min (still iterating), ~$13+ That's roughly 2× the time and 3× the cost, yet Kimi produced the more playable result with the exact same prompt.

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NVIDIA just dropped free API keys for every top AI model You don't need your own GPU and you don't pay per token. GLM-5.2, MiniMax, Kimi, DeepSeek, OpenAI, all running on NVIDIA's servers, called through a normal API. Link: How to use one: 1. Create a free NVIDIA account. 2. Pick a Free Endpoint model and open its Build tab. You'll see ready-to-copy code with the base URL 3. Hit Generate API Key, copy it and paste that base URL and key into Claude Code, Cursor, or Cline. Bonus: NVIDIA also dropped 237 official skills that install into Claude Code and Codex in one command. Bookmark this.

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New podcast with Florian Brand on all things open models. More on Kimi K3, Qwen 3.8, GLM-5.2, Xi's WAIC speech, distillation, the open-closed Gap, and what's next. Chapters: 00:00 Welcome & context 04:38 Living with / using Kimi K3 08:53 GLM 5.2’s continued role 12:47 How are the Chinese models this good? 17:41 Data, environments, and a tour of the Chinese labs 19:47 Roundup of Chinese providers: Qwen, DeepSeek, MiniMax… 24:08 The US open-model ecosystem 30:25 Frontier vs. near-frontier, and the cybersecurity case against bans 34:58 Distillation and the Ben Thompson debate 44:12 Predictions and a frontier tier list 48:36 Wrap-up Hoping to keep doing a few more of these on Interconnects AI. Crucial times in AI, we're working hard to share our expertise.
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New podcast with Florian Brand on all things open models. More on Kimi K3, Qwen 3.8, GLM-5.2, Xi's WAIC speech, distillation, the open-closed Gap, and what's next. Chapters: 00:00 Welcome & context 04:38 Living with / using Kimi K3 08:53 GLM 5.2’s continued role 12:47 How are the Chinese models this good? 17:41 Data, environments, and a tour of the Chinese labs 19:47 Roundup of Chinese providers: Qwen, DeepSeek, MiniMax… 24:08 The US open-model ecosystem 30:25 Frontier vs. near-frontier, and the cybersecurity case against bans 34:58 Distillation and the Ben Thompson debate 44:12 Predictions and a frontier tier list 48:36 Wrap-up Hoping to keep doing a few more of these on Interconnects AI. Crucial times in AI, we're working hard to share our expertise.

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I couldn't believe the results of this benchmarking test. I blind-tested 6 frontier models — Sonnet 5, Opus 4.8, Fable 5, GPT 5.5, GLM 5.2, and Kimi 2.5 — on knowledge work, not engineering. Writing. Analysis. Design. Vibe coding. Subagent simulations. The stuff we actually do all day. Same prompts, each model running its own subagent, every output graded blind before the labels were revealed. The results: → GLM 5.2 (the dirt-cheap open-source model from China) took first → Sonnet 5 took second, beating Fable 5 for knowledge work → Opus 4.8 got whooped Then I had Composer 2.5 judge every output independently — and it picked Fable 5 almost across the board. My blind picks and the AI judge completely disagreed. Full breakdown, method, and prompts in the video below. Which model are you running as your daily driver right now?

JJ Englert

10,737 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce

Qwen 3.8 Max beat Fable 5 at building 3D physics scenes for 7x cheaper! We gave two models the same task. Build three self-contained 3D scenes, each one HTML file with real physics that runs itself. Prompts: - A marble machine that lifts marbles up a wheel and drops them on a loop - A car factory assembly line - A sawmill cutting logs into planks Outputs: Qwen 3.8 Max: 46.6K tokens, $0.28 Fable 5: 38.7K tokens, $1.93 Qwen worked much harder on the details. Its textures and shadows look real. Fable 5 built a fast prototype that works and left it there. In the marble machine, Fable's marbles show up from nowhere at the top of the wheel. In Qwen's, you can see them go up. On the car line, Qwen's cars look much better and more real. Fable's sawmill is very strange. The saw looks wrong, and the log goes right through a beam before the saw cuts it. Atomic Chat will have day zero support to run Qwen 3.8 Max locally!
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Qwen 3.8 Max beat Fable 5 at building 3D physics scenes for 7x cheaper! We gave two models the same task. Build three self-contained 3D scenes, each one HTML file with real physics that runs itself. Prompts: - A marble machine that lifts marbles up a wheel and drops them on a loop - A car factory assembly line - A sawmill cutting logs into planks Outputs: Qwen 3.8 Max: 46.6K tokens, $0.28 Fable 5: 38.7K tokens, $1.93 Qwen worked much harder on the details. Its textures and shadows look real. Fable 5 built a fast prototype that works and left it there. In the marble machine, Fable's marbles show up from nowhere at the top of the wheel. In Qwen's, you can see them go up. On the car line, Qwen's cars look much better and more real. Fable's sawmill is very strange. The saw looks wrong, and the log goes right through a beam before the saw cuts it. Atomic Chat will have day zero support to run Qwen 3.8 Max locally!

atomic.chat

208,492 görüntüleme • 9 gün önce

Z.ai GLM 5.2 is now live on Eigent from day 0! threw a real long-horizon task: research 30 companies across 6 sectors of the AI infrastructure stack, structure it into JSON, then build an interactive HTML report. same prompt, 5.1 vs 5.2. where 5.2 pulls ahead: → plans deeper and verifies harder. → researches wider. Covers 2x the ground. → ships a more complete, interactive report. with a 1M context window, it holds the whole task from research to final deliverable. no dropped threads, no half-finished output. long tasks are where the difference shows. try it on open source coworker Eigent. 🦾
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Z.ai GLM 5.2 is now live on Eigent from day 0! threw a real long-horizon task: research 30 companies across 6 sectors of the AI infrastructure stack, structure it into JSON, then build an interactive HTML report. same prompt, 5.1 vs 5.2. where 5.2 pulls ahead: → plans deeper and verifies harder. → researches wider. Covers 2x the ground. → ships a more complete, interactive report. with a 1M context window, it holds the whole task from research to final deliverable. no dropped threads, no half-finished output. long tasks are where the difference shows. try it on open source coworker Eigent. 🦾

Eigent AI

22,881 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce