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People use Jev to pick a model before a task. I made it change GPT-6's reasoning effort inside Codex DURING the task. More thinking when stuck. Less for routine steps. 50% lower Astra costs in my tests. Faster runs, without breaking prompt caching.

628,428 просмотров • 6 дней назад •via X (Twitter)

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Фото профиля albs—
albs—6 дней назад

it does break caching

Фото профиля vechen
vechen6 дней назад

If this gets traction, I'll open-source it on my GitHub (and post again on X to notify). I've been using it for real work in Codex CLI. It uses Codex CLI's experimental per-step settings to change reasoning effort before the next GPT-6 generation. After tool results, Jev gets the task, published reasoning/progress summaries, and the last six tool calls with bounded outputs. It picks an effort level and how long to keep it: 1, 2, 5, or 10 generations. No extra Jev calls during that window. Tool failures or new user input can trigger an earlier reassessment. This version specifically targets GPT-6 Astra. Effort changes use native Codex configuration updates that preserve the existing prompt prefix and cache. No cache rebuild penalty just for changing effort. Jev is fast enough that I don't notice the routing overhead. Lower effort on routine steps saves enough reasoning time to make the overall task faster, while using fewer tokens.

Фото профиля Bit
Bit6 дней назад

oh this is fire actually, i feel like i only see people trying to route between different models but routing the thinking level of one model during a turn is an interesting idea

Фото профиля catman
catman6 дней назад

The practical rule is to make reasoning effort adaptive, but cap the escalation: spend extra tokens only after a measurable stall or failed check, then fall back once progress resumes.

Фото профиля ハル|雑記
ハル|雑記6 дней назад

推論努力を動的に変えるのは私も試したけど、「詰まった」の判定をどこに置くかで全然違う結果になった。

Фото профиля yian
yian6 дней назад

doesn't this break context caching or no

Фото профиля vechen
vechen6 дней назад

It doesn’t with Astra only, I really hope some folks would research question first before arguing, I remember when they announced it when Astra came out and that’s why I decided to build it :)

Фото профиля hexa
hexa6 дней назад

could this work with laya?

Фото профиля arman
arman6 дней назад

hear me out. jev is really powerful, but people are starting to treat it like an oracle for decisions that only make sense once you’re actually in the task. some questions just don’t have an answer upfront.

Фото профиля Rudie Verweij
Rudie Verweij6 дней назад

Okay loads of comments about how this breaks cache. I believe it does work on API but not on subscription yet. @grok ?

Фото профиля Jakub Arnold
Jakub Arnold6 дней назад

each switch breaks cache?

Фото профиля SatoriBR
SatoriBR6 дней назад

Pls benchmark the savings

Фото профиля JJ Eaton
JJ Eaton6 дней назад

have you actually tested this? I built this too but it completely voided the cache on longer-running tasks. Actually making it more expensive.

Фото профиля Chris Nguyen
Chris Nguyen6 дней назад

Breaking cache means you paying 10x higher every prompt lol

Фото профиля Adam Krawczyk
Adam Krawczyk6 дней назад

that might be really cool use case - i will try that. thanks for sharing

Фото профиля Aaron
Aaron6 дней назад

Cool. I guess the risk is just that Jev guesses wrong and uses the wrong model strength sometimes. Thoughts?

Фото профиля Ahmet Burhan Kayalı
Ahmet Burhan Kayalı6 дней назад

That’ll hurt cache efficiency a lot. Not good...

Фото профиля Zhou Yu
Zhou Yu6 дней назад

Keeping the cache intact is the clever part. Swapping models mid-task throws away the prefix you already paid for, so the saving gets eaten. Turning effort up and down on one model keeps it. How does it decide it's stuck: repeated tool errors, or something softer?

Фото профиля Douglas Samuel
Douglas Samuel6 дней назад

The cache preservation detail is the part worth digging into though, since that's usually where dynamic switching schemes break in practice.

Фото профиля Alexander Liebisch
Alexander Liebisch6 дней назад

Isn’t that very stupid, as it increases your usage by a lot, because of all the cache misses?

Фото профиля twilight
twilight6 дней назад

본문이 맞다면 오픈AI는 비난을 들어야 할정도입니다. 정말 대단합니다! 오픈소스 결정은 더욱 대단하네요. 어떤 누군가는 글자를 유료로 공유하고 있는데말이죠.

Фото профиля Juan
Juan6 дней назад

publish it!

Фото профиля A-a-ron ⬣
A-a-ron ⬣6 дней назад

This is amazing! Is it still sending the entire context of the conversation when switching the models and reasoning? I've heard that to be true when you're manually switching mid thread and isn't efficient, although I've always done this myself, just curious. 🤔

Фото профиля Piotr Szpulek
Piotr Szpulek6 дней назад

Very needed in opencode or kilo

Фото профиля Thieu Nguyen /Theo/
Thieu Nguyen /Theo/6 дней назад

Check your bill 🤣

Фото профиля Michael T
Michael T6 дней назад

但是有人测试发现Astra Medium比Xhigh消耗还要快,希望这只是codex的bug

Фото профиля ounissi zakaria
ounissi zakaria6 дней назад

Changing reasoning effort busts the cache

Фото профиля COCOLEMON
COCOLEMON6 дней назад

that’s amazing!

Фото профиля Tanya
Tanya6 дней назад

That's very cool! Thank you!

Фото профиля ARTEE
ARTEE6 дней назад

that’s a cache miss

Фото профиля EDDY VU
EDDY VU6 дней назад

Toggling reasoning effort purely at the request level to keep the prefix cache intact is such a clever move.

Фото профиля Chun Ling Johnny Liu
Chun Ling Johnny Liu6 дней назад

Does this break cache?

Фото профиля AIwithMinal
AIwithMinal6 дней назад

This one definitely stands out.

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