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People use Jev to pick a model before a task. I made it change GPT-6's reasoning effort inside Codex DURING the task. More thinking when stuck. Less for routine steps. 50% lower Astra costs in my tests. Faster runs, without breaking prompt caching.

628,428 görüntüleme • 6 gün önce •via X (Twitter)

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albs—6 gün önce

it does break caching

vechen profil fotoğrafı
vechen6 gün önce

If this gets traction, I'll open-source it on my GitHub (and post again on X to notify). I've been using it for real work in Codex CLI. It uses Codex CLI's experimental per-step settings to change reasoning effort before the next GPT-6 generation. After tool results, Jev gets the task, published reasoning/progress summaries, and the last six tool calls with bounded outputs. It picks an effort level and how long to keep it: 1, 2, 5, or 10 generations. No extra Jev calls during that window. Tool failures or new user input can trigger an earlier reassessment. This version specifically targets GPT-6 Astra. Effort changes use native Codex configuration updates that preserve the existing prompt prefix and cache. No cache rebuild penalty just for changing effort. Jev is fast enough that I don't notice the routing overhead. Lower effort on routine steps saves enough reasoning time to make the overall task faster, while using fewer tokens.

Bit profil fotoğrafı
Bit6 gün önce

oh this is fire actually, i feel like i only see people trying to route between different models but routing the thinking level of one model during a turn is an interesting idea

catman profil fotoğrafı
catman6 gün önce

The practical rule is to make reasoning effort adaptive, but cap the escalation: spend extra tokens only after a measurable stall or failed check, then fall back once progress resumes.

ハル|雑記 profil fotoğrafı
ハル|雑記6 gün önce

推論努力を動的に変えるのは私も試したけど、「詰まった」の判定をどこに置くかで全然違う結果になった。

yian profil fotoğrafı
yian6 gün önce

doesn't this break context caching or no

vechen profil fotoğrafı
vechen6 gün önce

It doesn’t with Astra only, I really hope some folks would research question first before arguing, I remember when they announced it when Astra came out and that’s why I decided to build it :)

hexa profil fotoğrafı
hexa6 gün önce

could this work with laya?

arman profil fotoğrafı
arman6 gün önce

hear me out. jev is really powerful, but people are starting to treat it like an oracle for decisions that only make sense once you’re actually in the task. some questions just don’t have an answer upfront.

Rudie Verweij profil fotoğrafı
Rudie Verweij6 gün önce

Okay loads of comments about how this breaks cache. I believe it does work on API but not on subscription yet. @grok ?

Jakub Arnold profil fotoğrafı
Jakub Arnold6 gün önce

each switch breaks cache?

SatoriBR profil fotoğrafı
SatoriBR6 gün önce

Pls benchmark the savings

JJ Eaton profil fotoğrafı
JJ Eaton6 gün önce

have you actually tested this? I built this too but it completely voided the cache on longer-running tasks. Actually making it more expensive.

Chris Nguyen profil fotoğrafı
Chris Nguyen6 gün önce

Breaking cache means you paying 10x higher every prompt lol

Adam Krawczyk profil fotoğrafı
Adam Krawczyk6 gün önce

that might be really cool use case - i will try that. thanks for sharing

Aaron profil fotoğrafı
Aaron6 gün önce

Cool. I guess the risk is just that Jev guesses wrong and uses the wrong model strength sometimes. Thoughts?

Ahmet Burhan Kayalı profil fotoğrafı
Ahmet Burhan Kayalı6 gün önce

That’ll hurt cache efficiency a lot. Not good...

Zhou Yu profil fotoğrafı
Zhou Yu6 gün önce

Keeping the cache intact is the clever part. Swapping models mid-task throws away the prefix you already paid for, so the saving gets eaten. Turning effort up and down on one model keeps it. How does it decide it's stuck: repeated tool errors, or something softer?

Douglas Samuel profil fotoğrafı
Douglas Samuel6 gün önce

The cache preservation detail is the part worth digging into though, since that's usually where dynamic switching schemes break in practice.

Alexander Liebisch profil fotoğrafı
Alexander Liebisch6 gün önce

Isn’t that very stupid, as it increases your usage by a lot, because of all the cache misses?

twilight profil fotoğrafı
twilight6 gün önce

본문이 맞다면 오픈AI는 비난을 들어야 할정도입니다. 정말 대단합니다! 오픈소스 결정은 더욱 대단하네요. 어떤 누군가는 글자를 유료로 공유하고 있는데말이죠.

Juan profil fotoğrafı
Juan6 gün önce

publish it!

A-a-ron ⬣ profil fotoğrafı
A-a-ron ⬣6 gün önce

This is amazing! Is it still sending the entire context of the conversation when switching the models and reasoning? I've heard that to be true when you're manually switching mid thread and isn't efficient, although I've always done this myself, just curious. 🤔

Piotr Szpulek profil fotoğrafı
Piotr Szpulek6 gün önce

Very needed in opencode or kilo

Thieu Nguyen /Theo/ profil fotoğrafı
Thieu Nguyen /Theo/6 gün önce

Check your bill 🤣

Michael T profil fotoğrafı
Michael T6 gün önce

但是有人测试发现Astra Medium比Xhigh消耗还要快,希望这只是codex的bug

ounissi zakaria profil fotoğrafı
ounissi zakaria6 gün önce

Changing reasoning effort busts the cache

COCOLEMON profil fotoğrafı
COCOLEMON6 gün önce

that’s amazing!

Tanya profil fotoğrafı
Tanya6 gün önce

That's very cool! Thank you!

ARTEE profil fotoğrafı
ARTEE6 gün önce

that’s a cache miss

EDDY VU profil fotoğrafı
EDDY VU6 gün önce

Toggling reasoning effort purely at the request level to keep the prefix cache intact is such a clever move.

Chun Ling Johnny Liu profil fotoğrafı
Chun Ling Johnny Liu6 gün önce

Does this break cache?

AIwithMinal profil fotoğrafı
AIwithMinal6 gün önce

This one definitely stands out.

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