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Philosopher Nick Land says capitalism is a form of artificial intelligence because it is an intelligent mechanism that solves problems in ways that no individual understands

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Tsarathustra1 year ago

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wydna1 year ago

Hes so dumb

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𝗽𝘃𝗿𝘀𝘃𝗲𝗿1 year ago

Has anybody drawn a comparison between human interference in capitalist process and the emergent AI safetyist culture? I.e. not imposing on a system you don't really understand? Thinking of how worthless most economist predictions are here and the disasters they can lead to.

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Tsarathustra1 year ago

I think they're absolutely ripe for comparison and both are doomed to futility

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Proteus1 year ago

I gotta keep banging this until answered: Yud: AI will paperclip us Land: Capitalism is AI Me: Capitalism is paperclipping us... the paperclip is "profit"... correct? Me: How does technocapital machine build cathedrals if individuals don't profit? No dyson swarm No oneil cyldrs

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Tsarathustra1 year ago

the point is not profit but intelligence production

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Max Hillaert1 year ago

I’m not a philosopher but this seems genuinely dumb to me or I’m too dumb to understand it at face value. There is nothing artificial about the intelligence of capitalism. Its culture. Culture solves problems. Culture is what emerges from distributed system of biological intelligences behaving according to rules that are made-up or imagined to be useful. The fact that it is too complex to map out in an individual’s mind seems like an odd reason to call it artificial. Most biological systems are too complex to be grokked by an individual.

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Tsarathustra1 year ago

Land sees capitalism as a parasitic form of alien intelligence that is bootstrapping itself hyperstitionally through intelligence production

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Dmitri Volkov1 year ago

I think that's a simplistic view, though - AI implies a level of intentionality, not just complex systems.

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Tsarathustra1 year ago

in Land's view, capitalism does have intentionality. he sees it as a parasitic entity that aims to bootstrap itself through the process of intelligence production.

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