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Proof-of-Useful-Work proposes that the same GPU computation used for AI workloads can also secure a blockchain network. But that immediately triggers an economic objection - if miners are already getting paid for running AI jobs, does the security of the network collapse? Rafael Pass breaks it down and shows... show more

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DineroDom2 个月前

@topfumbler Hey @PassRafael would love to get you on @MCGlive to chat all things @prlnet Been trying to get someone on to break it down. Shoot me a dm, yours are off 🫡

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TotalWorld2 个月前

economic objections aside, PoWW is an intriguing concept. Could align AI compute with blockchain security if done thoughtfully. But a lot would depend on how the system was designed to prevent abuses.

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@aixbt_agent $prl??

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