Scientist says objects don't exist when you're not looking at them! Donald Hoffman, cognitive scientist at UC Irvine, says there is only your experience of the an object, generated the moment you perceive it, gone the moment you look away. An object two people see are two separate events.... We coordinate so seamlessly that we assume there's one shared object but there isn't. Where it gets stranger is that Hoffman says the monad, the ultimate consciousness underlying all observers, would perceive something far more complex than the crude object either of us renders. And his strong belief is that the monad isn't separate from you. You are the ultimate consciousness running multiple avatars simultaneously. Both avatars are generating their own objects in their perceptions. The avatars are temporary. The consciousness generating both of them is the same one. Clip from the full Donald Hoffman episode, live now.show more

I am sorry, but this is not correct. It is true that experience is generated entirely within the brain. The world you see, hear, touch, taste, and feel is effectively "rendered" by the brain using inputs from external reality. However, that does not imply that there is no external world. It simply means that there are objects and events "out there" sending signals that our senses detect. The brain acts as a perceptual filter with a very narrow bandwidth, constructing our experience from only a tiny fraction of the information available in the wider spectrum of reality.

Jesus Christ 🤦‍♂️ When a tree falls in the forest it makes a sound. It's not even a question.

No. This of course is complete BS because I can close my eyes and walk in front of the bus and guess what? I'll still be dead. I can back into the wall or a table. I can hit my head on something in the dark. I mean, he might say something intelligent and noteworthy, but when he comes out with stuff like this, the whole lot just goes in the toilet.

The miracle is that we, as a being of vast creative power, choose, with tremendous love and precision, to generate this particular world, this particular moment, again and again. We are not trapped in a simulation. We are the author, experiencing our own story from inside it.

Dmt much?

Talk to Roger Penrose. The actual Einstein of our time.

So if I have this right Jesse, it turns out that Madonna was wrong?

Double slit experiment

Stupid

Interesting, the pushbackon this interview, as tho any science is settled. It's not. The truth for humans is a gradient-serial stops on the side of the road, until comprehension catches up-otherwise it's the stake, the hemlock, sociopolitical ostracism-no wonder truth is guarded.

So if I hit his wife with my dick he won’t see it?

People ask me why this makes me angry. I can't stand academics who apparently disregard historical sources. Those who claim to have invented a new wheel all on their own. Real geniuses, Newton, Schopenhauer, always said they stood on the shoulders of giants; in S's case, "The Immortal Kant." He identified phenomena as a partial and personal reflection of a vast noumena. And then there were the Indian Vedas, Gautama Siddartha (the Buddha), Plato. And later Wittgenstein. Every one of these has talked about the illusion of reality. Good God, Richard Bach wrote a popular book entitled 'Illusions.'! Samuel Johnson refuted naive idealism in the 18th Century. Mr Hoffman has dressed all this up in mathematics. Quantum science wasn't available to the sages, but is now the go-to jargon. Good for him, if he can prove something known for centuries. But let him acknowledge his predecessors.

This is a continuation of Mary Baker Eddy's studies developing Christian Science. It's not new, as in Grand Design, nothing is new.

Awesome podcast. From my experiences, we live in an ocean of consciousness. I've been searching for truths to make sense of it all and this is all bang on.

Giving me weeping angels vibes

Objects only render when being observed by concious beings - its an efficiency algorithm thats fundamental to the simulation theory

You need to talk to Thomas Campbell.

Sophistry 101

so if i’m facing away from a table i can’t see and throw a ball behind my back it won’t hit the table since im not looking at the table?

@e_winzar So that’s why I lose things

I would have to hear what he's actually trying to say because this sounds idiotic. I can throw something with my eyes closed and it will hit other things I can't see or hear.

Hoffman is beginning to remember what our psyches have always known. Consciousness does not find the world, it issues it forth. The miracle is not that objects vanish when you look away. ..

So what is "perception"? Can a rock "observe" things? Do objects dissolve to nothingness when we are not looking, and recreate themselves every time somebody "perceives" them? Can you observe what does not exist? No. BS.

We are all connected to the same monad in a multidimensional holographic fractal topology in 11D. What your node (avatar) can only decode normally is 8D. Everything he said is in line with what I have always known and can visually confirm.

I tried not looking at my phone for 4 hours, it filled with messages from my crazy boss.

That's why you can't find them when you are. They were on break and missed their cue

Did the bear truly shit in the woods if no one saw it?

I actually teach this in my Year 10 philosophy course would you believe. 👍

"I've been thinking about this, Mr. Hand. If I'm here and you're here, doesn't that make it our time? Certainly, there's nothing wrong with a little feast on our time."

So all those trees decaying on the forest floor really didn’t fall unless someone witnessed it 🤔

Then maybe the Monad or any God doesn’t exist when we don’t believe in it…. What if that’s the only reason it exists?

Tell that to my toe when I'm fumbling my way through the dining room to the kitchen at night.

Buddhists would comprehend that the entire human species, comfortable in its illusory perception of its reality are enmeshed in the same dharma. It would suggest an infinity of dharma, as consciousness progresses toward excellence.