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So Alibaba has just released a coding plan with all the best open source models You’ve access to Qwen 3.5-Plus, Kimi K2.5, MiniMax M2.5, GLM-5, etc. And you can plug it to: - Claude Code (as I did) - OpenClaw - Codex - Cline… While being waaay cheaper than...

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

It’s starting at $3 the first month (yes) and then it’s still at least 50% cheaper than the plans of the other big labs. And given how good the open source models are now, definitely worth it. Link:

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Vishvor 7 Monaten

the real value here is model diversity under one API key. when Qwen 3.5-Plus is better at certain tasks and Kimi K2.5 handles long context better, you can route different workloads to different models without managing 5 separate accounts. $3 first month is basically free to find out which OSS model fits your workflow best before committing

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

Yep, that's the good thing about it. You're not limited to a single model. And actually you even have access to image generation ones in the same plan.

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BiscuitAndBrollyvor 7 Monaten

So $3 for the first month and you get 18,000 API requests built in on Qwen 3.5-Plus, Kimi K2.5, MiniMax M2.5, GLM-5?

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

@LuciusFoxGME Yes, exactly!

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BiscuitAndBrollyvor 7 Monaten

I wonder whether it will include DeepSeek v4, if/when it drops...rumoured for tomorrow?? That would make an already superb value plan incredible!

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Kulfikvor 7 Monaten

And it is slow.

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

Not really

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Gregorvor 7 Monaten

I've been there - paying extra for advanced models, only to realize most of the time I used the free ones available. It's great to see Alibaba making these resources more accessible.

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Adityavor 7 Monaten

Usually these ultra cheap API tiers come with some backend limitations I'd rather not hit at 2 AM

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

This one is backed by Alibaba Cloud which is just absolutely massive

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Adityavor 7 Monaten

Thanks Paul! Alibaba Cloud being massive is reassuring 👍 Will try it now

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sycomsvor 7 Monaten

Love this. Cheap diverse models plus a good UX layer is the new IDE.

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90eights👊🏾🇰🇪vor 7 Monaten

Democratizing access to high-compute models via open-source pipelines is the ultimate disruptor for proprietary gatekeeping. The cost-to-performance ratio here is a strategic goldmine. 🛠️💻

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NagaVenkataSai Chennuvor 7 Monaten

plugging Qwen 3.5-Plus into Claude Code for free is wild. open source eating the coding agent space

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Alex Bisquizvor 7 Monaten

You cannot plug it into openclaw without braking the tos

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AweOSS.devvor 7 Monaten

Cheap is great, but model quality and tooling still decide everything. Have you stress-tested it on real projects yet?

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

Kimi GLM and MiniMax last models are very very good at tool calling. Zero issue.

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Top Aivor 7 Monaten

Wow, this is a game-changer! Access to such a powerful lineup at a fraction of the cost opens up so many possibilities. Thanks for sharing can’t wait to experiment with these tools!

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sycomsvor 7 Monaten

Interoperability is huge. Pricing pressure on closed plans just got real.

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Daniel Kingvor 7 Monaten

Doesn't work

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

? What kind of problem do you have?

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Daniel Kingvor 7 Monaten

Billing will not take my cards. Says for "new users only" and technically I have had an account with them for about 6 months But I've never been a paying customer Made a new account, still doesn't work But I mean, we all got problems, right?

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All-in-One API Below Official Pricesvor 5 Monaten

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Jonas Wangvor 7 Monaten

$3 for first month seems attractive, however what about the rate for the next month? they even does not release anything about that in the pricing page. That is typical Ali, provide you with bait at first, then eat you alive

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Sociyellvor 7 Monaten

Open source is quietly eating margin.

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

I'm here for it honestly 👀

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Sociyellvor 7 Monaten

Same. 🙂 It’s forcing everyone to actually differentiate instead of relying on pricing power.

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Vatsal | The Vibepreneurvor 7 Monaten

Cheaper is one thing but is it useful?

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

Well if you're using a coding agent or openclaw it is!

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Kanikavor 7 Monaten

Have you benchmarked these inside Claude Code or OpenClaw for complex refactors or multi-file reasoning?

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Arsalanvor 7 Monaten

The gap between open and closed models is shrinking fast

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

Almost non-existent depending on the use cases

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Yahia Ibrahimvor 7 Monaten

Cheap models don't matter if the cognitive cost is high. Switching between Claude and Qwen trains different patterns. The real question is whether you're building muscle memory or just saving money per token.

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WinnieZ🐻vor 7 Monaten

love your sharing! Really want to collaborate with you!

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Himanshu Kumarvor 7 Monaten

@itsPaulAi, this opens up some interesting possibilities for LLM inference.

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Adam Barlam ⛓🎮 ﹤/ ﹥vor 7 Monaten

How is the response time on it and tps vs getting the actual plans from minimax or kimi themselves?

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

I didn't compare the tps between the providers tbh. Seems really decent so far.

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Dimitar Radenkovvor 7 Monaten

Can you use it with VS Code and Copilot?

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Edison Adevor 7 Monaten

How does it compare with sonnet 4.6 ? Or Opus 4.6

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

GLM-5 (which is available in the coding plan) is really close to Opus in my experience. Kimi is solid as well, a bit different. And MiniMax between Sonnet and Opus I'd say.

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Edison Adevor 7 Monaten

Wow. I need to try them out then. Interesting

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AI Side Hustle Labvor 7 Monaten

Tools like this are making solo creators incredibly powerful.

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Ambika Choudhuryvor 6 Monaten

Found the easiest way to learn @Alibaba_Qwen with @lmstudio in 10 mins:

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Wilson Wizardvor 7 Monaten

plugging into Claude Code sounds like a great way to get started with those open source models

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

It is actually. Perfect to test the too calling as well.

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Amol Parikhvor 7 Monaten

Alibaba just made experimenting with Claude, Codex & friends way cheaper and way easier.

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

@AmolParikh40001 Exactly. Probably one of the plan that I will use the most tbh.

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Amol Parikhvor 7 Monaten

Very cool :)

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justanother human 🌎vor 6 Monaten

Alibaba claw

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Digital Lumberjackvor 7 Monaten

Thanks

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Paul Couvertvor 7 Monaten

Welcome!

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White Cloud 🌥vor 7 Monaten

Not ready to feed my data to China.

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