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So Alibaba has just released a coding plan with all the best open source models You’ve access to Qwen 3.5-Plus, Kimi K2.5, MiniMax M2.5, GLM-5, etc. And you can plug it to: - Claude Code (as I did) - OpenClaw - Codex - Cline… While being waaay cheaper than...

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Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

It’s starting at $3 the first month (yes) and then it’s still at least 50% cheaper than the plans of the other big labs. And given how good the open source models are now, definitely worth it. Link:

Vish profil fotoğrafı
Vish7 ay önce

the real value here is model diversity under one API key. when Qwen 3.5-Plus is better at certain tasks and Kimi K2.5 handles long context better, you can route different workloads to different models without managing 5 separate accounts. $3 first month is basically free to find out which OSS model fits your workflow best before committing

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

Yep, that's the good thing about it. You're not limited to a single model. And actually you even have access to image generation ones in the same plan.

BiscuitAndBrolly profil fotoğrafı
BiscuitAndBrolly7 ay önce

So $3 for the first month and you get 18,000 API requests built in on Qwen 3.5-Plus, Kimi K2.5, MiniMax M2.5, GLM-5?

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

@LuciusFoxGME Yes, exactly!

BiscuitAndBrolly profil fotoğrafı
BiscuitAndBrolly7 ay önce

I wonder whether it will include DeepSeek v4, if/when it drops...rumoured for tomorrow?? That would make an already superb value plan incredible!

Kulfik profil fotoğrafı
Kulfik7 ay önce

And it is slow.

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

Not really

Gregor profil fotoğrafı
Gregor7 ay önce

I've been there - paying extra for advanced models, only to realize most of the time I used the free ones available. It's great to see Alibaba making these resources more accessible.

Aditya profil fotoğrafı
Aditya7 ay önce

Usually these ultra cheap API tiers come with some backend limitations I'd rather not hit at 2 AM

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

This one is backed by Alibaba Cloud which is just absolutely massive

Aditya profil fotoğrafı
Aditya7 ay önce

Thanks Paul! Alibaba Cloud being massive is reassuring 👍 Will try it now

sycoms profil fotoğrafı
sycoms7 ay önce

Love this. Cheap diverse models plus a good UX layer is the new IDE.

90eights👊🏾🇰🇪 profil fotoğrafı
90eights👊🏾🇰🇪7 ay önce

Democratizing access to high-compute models via open-source pipelines is the ultimate disruptor for proprietary gatekeeping. The cost-to-performance ratio here is a strategic goldmine. 🛠️💻

NagaVenkataSai Chennu profil fotoğrafı
NagaVenkataSai Chennu7 ay önce

plugging Qwen 3.5-Plus into Claude Code for free is wild. open source eating the coding agent space

Alex Bisquiz profil fotoğrafı
Alex Bisquiz7 ay önce

You cannot plug it into openclaw without braking the tos

AweOSS.dev profil fotoğrafı
AweOSS.dev7 ay önce

Cheap is great, but model quality and tooling still decide everything. Have you stress-tested it on real projects yet?

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

Kimi GLM and MiniMax last models are very very good at tool calling. Zero issue.

Top Ai profil fotoğrafı
Top Ai7 ay önce

Wow, this is a game-changer! Access to such a powerful lineup at a fraction of the cost opens up so many possibilities. Thanks for sharing can’t wait to experiment with these tools!

sycoms profil fotoğrafı
sycoms7 ay önce

Interoperability is huge. Pricing pressure on closed plans just got real.

Daniel King profil fotoğrafı
Daniel King7 ay önce

Doesn't work

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

? What kind of problem do you have?

Daniel King profil fotoğrafı
Daniel King7 ay önce

Billing will not take my cards. Says for "new users only" and technically I have had an account with them for about 6 months But I've never been a paying customer Made a new account, still doesn't work But I mean, we all got problems, right?

All-in-One API Below Official Prices profil fotoğrafı
All-in-One API Below Official Prices5 ay önce

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Jonas Wang profil fotoğrafı
Jonas Wang7 ay önce

$3 for first month seems attractive, however what about the rate for the next month? they even does not release anything about that in the pricing page. That is typical Ali, provide you with bait at first, then eat you alive

Sociyell profil fotoğrafı
Sociyell7 ay önce

Open source is quietly eating margin.

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

I'm here for it honestly 👀

Sociyell profil fotoğrafı
Sociyell7 ay önce

Same. 🙂 It’s forcing everyone to actually differentiate instead of relying on pricing power.

Vatsal | The Vibepreneur profil fotoğrafı
Vatsal | The Vibepreneur7 ay önce

Cheaper is one thing but is it useful?

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

Well if you're using a coding agent or openclaw it is!

Kanika profil fotoğrafı
Kanika7 ay önce

Have you benchmarked these inside Claude Code or OpenClaw for complex refactors or multi-file reasoning?

Arsalan profil fotoğrafı
Arsalan7 ay önce

The gap between open and closed models is shrinking fast

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

Almost non-existent depending on the use cases

Yahia Ibrahim profil fotoğrafı
Yahia Ibrahim7 ay önce

Cheap models don't matter if the cognitive cost is high. Switching between Claude and Qwen trains different patterns. The real question is whether you're building muscle memory or just saving money per token.

WinnieZ🐻 profil fotoğrafı
WinnieZ🐻7 ay önce

love your sharing! Really want to collaborate with you!

Himanshu Kumar profil fotoğrafı
Himanshu Kumar7 ay önce

@itsPaulAi, this opens up some interesting possibilities for LLM inference.

Adam Barlam ⛓🎮 ﹤/ ﹥ profil fotoğrafı
Adam Barlam ⛓🎮 ﹤/ ﹥7 ay önce

How is the response time on it and tps vs getting the actual plans from minimax or kimi themselves?

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

I didn't compare the tps between the providers tbh. Seems really decent so far.

Dimitar Radenkov profil fotoğrafı
Dimitar Radenkov7 ay önce

Can you use it with VS Code and Copilot?

Edison Ade profil fotoğrafı
Edison Ade7 ay önce

How does it compare with sonnet 4.6 ? Or Opus 4.6

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

GLM-5 (which is available in the coding plan) is really close to Opus in my experience. Kimi is solid as well, a bit different. And MiniMax between Sonnet and Opus I'd say.

Edison Ade profil fotoğrafı
Edison Ade7 ay önce

Wow. I need to try them out then. Interesting

AI Side Hustle Lab profil fotoğrafı
AI Side Hustle Lab7 ay önce

Tools like this are making solo creators incredibly powerful.

Ambika Choudhury profil fotoğrafı
Ambika Choudhury6 ay önce

Found the easiest way to learn @Alibaba_Qwen with @lmstudio in 10 mins:

Wilson Wizard profil fotoğrafı
Wilson Wizard7 ay önce

plugging into Claude Code sounds like a great way to get started with those open source models

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

It is actually. Perfect to test the too calling as well.

Amol Parikh profil fotoğrafı
Amol Parikh7 ay önce

Alibaba just made experimenting with Claude, Codex & friends way cheaper and way easier.

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

@AmolParikh40001 Exactly. Probably one of the plan that I will use the most tbh.

Amol Parikh profil fotoğrafı
Amol Parikh7 ay önce

Very cool :)

justanother human 🌎 profil fotoğrafı
justanother human 🌎6 ay önce

Alibaba claw

Digital Lumberjack profil fotoğrafı
Digital Lumberjack7 ay önce

Thanks

Paul Couvert profil fotoğrafı
Paul Couvert7 ay önce

Welcome!

White Cloud 🌥 profil fotoğrafı
White Cloud 🌥7 ay önce

Not ready to feed my data to China.

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