Stallone says 'what doesn't kill you' is a lie, Arnold fires back that it killed his brother, then credits his brutal childhood for making him leave Austria Stallone: “I can't just blame it on them, cuz when I go back and I look at my mother's upbringing, orphanages and... this and that, they were angry. And they just thought, 'That's the way I'm going to pass it on. You're not going to be happy if I'm not happy.'” Arnold: “My brother Meinhard, he died. He died because his reaction was to become an alcoholic himself. One day driving with a car and then hitting a telegraph post. And just smashed into it and got killed.” Arnold: “And on top of it, I said to myself, 'If I would have grown up like some people do with all the love in the world, I would have never left home. I would have stayed in Austria.'” Stallone: “You escaped in bodybuilding. I escaped the theater cuz I wasn't too happy with the reality. So I said, 'This is my world cuz I don't like this one.' I think that we were going to do it no matter what. It just would have been nice with a little bit more encouragement. That's all.” Hearing Arnold talk about his brother completely changes the tone of the conversation. I wasn't expecting it to get that personal. Which part of this conversation stood out to you the most?show more

Arnold’s point about his brother is the reminder people often miss. The same childhood can push one person to escape and another to self-destruct. Trauma doesn’t automatically make people stronger ,it changes everyone differently

that's true, though,to be honest, I didn't know that about Arnold at all

Both with different perspectives though their past is tough. It only makes me think, how different once trauma could impact different people

yeah, that's really crazy, everyone deals with it differently

Arnold sounds based here

It’s the antithesis of the victim mentality you could say. Sadly, this is becoming lost on the younger generation and everything is “someone else’s fault” for your lack of success.

If what didn’t kill you made you stronger then veterans wouldn’t be taking their lives at the rate they do.

That must be the hardest moment for mr arnold

absolute… didn’t know that

Arnold can suck off. He showed us true colors. He’s no American. Remember, fuck your freedom?

These are the kinds of interviews that are worth watching. Real talk. Seeing the real person behind the actor is a good thing to see.

Nietzsche was probably joking when he said That which does not kill you makes you stronger. He was referring to his military training. He was an ambulance driver in the Franco Prussian War, an experience that shaped his attitude against blind duty.

ft. @Schwarzenegger , @TheSlyStallone , @TMZ

Arnold actually proved what Sylvester was saying… it killed his brother he didn’t come back from it, Arnold did not do the same as his brother and was all the better for it

I had an abusive stepfather who changed his ways and now he’s one of my best friends (And there was a genocide of the German people)

Fuck Stallone forever.. he is a trump loving piece of shit.... he's ok with child rape... no one should give a shit about anything he has to say

Well, it’s interesting that Arnold is actually a twisted narcissist. The abuse from his father actually did kill his brother.

If we question why Boomers are the way they are, a lot does go back to childhoods. Their parents had very difficult lives. Most of their parents lived through the depression and fought in (or were affected by) WWII. Then they had the spectre of the Cold War and the draft. They were given a lot of opportunities, but didn't have perfect childhoods. We see that reflected in their personalities too: selfishness & immaturity are hallmarks of a painful childhood.

Arnold is comparing apples and oranges. Arnold justified his dad’s anger with his dad having emotional physical scars from war. Sly doesn’t identify the scars of his parent’s but his parents were just cruel to him on a whole different level. Two totally different circumstances.

Goes to show people process the same exact trauma in two completely different ways….

Nothing against Stallone, I just find Arnold and his story interesting on a different level, and I really wish he would stop doing these gigs where they get compared. It’s like, dude, you’re bigger than just that era of action movies competing with Stallone at the box office.

Arnold weaponizing his brutal childhood to justify trauma is toxic machismo glorifying pain that destroyed his own family.

💯 But also stop making excuses for your parents. They had an opportunity to put you, the child over themselves & break the cycle but they chose themselves. Also the fact that some people are just simply disordered personalities. Once you learn this, it helps you heal hopefully. You weren’t unloveable, the parent was just simply cruel and selfish

I once quoted that “that which doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” in a letter to Michael Jackson. At the top of his reply letter, he wrote, “That which doesn’t kill you, makes you want to kill yourself!!!!! That “stronger” bullshit is a goddamned lie!!!!!!”

Just the bombs in WW2 would cause shell shock,shaking,anxiety,ringing of the ears and hearing loss,severe anxiety. The drinking was to self medicate

I play Rocky….lets goooooo!!!!

Stallone is right here. The vast majority end up incredibly damaged. Ask any psychiatrist who deals with people with real problems

They both are correct. Pain and trauma can push you to change and become something else but it can also break you down and lead to self destructive behaviors.

So your father treated your mother like a piece of sht, and then you treated Maria the same way. Now you preaching us. Whos the piece of sht?

Stallone is more on top of it. Really successful people that weren’t born with a silver spoon would make it anywhere. They find a way. Many alcoholics and druggies come from great environments as well. Sometimes a person is just destined for greatness or despair.

Harvey is a Jewish sack of shit, but this is a great interview

Such a great take on childhood trauma, upbringing struggles and life in general, everyone has their own demons and challenges to fight on their own for the most part!

GOOD OLD BS ARNOLD DOESN’T HAVE IT IN HIM TO GET MAD AT HIS NAZI FATHER BUT HE SURE GOT PLENTY OF ENERGY AGAINST TRUMP TO DO THOSE STUPID DEMOCRAT COMMERCIALS. SOMETIMES HE FINDS THE ENERGY I GUESS‼️🤡

Nornalize men NOT being chatty in a therapy session again. This feminisation of the online platform where men now ruminate like women, has done irreparable harm to the current generation of men.

This is a false either/or, it's not one or the other. You don't either blame your past or escape it. Surprised at Sly's takes, I agreed with what he said about hurt people hurt people of course, but I do agree with Arnold (and Nietzsche) about growing stronger. Sly's comments about encouragement are Adlerian: no praise and blame, encouragement is what is needed for growth.

What a true privilege it would be to be in the same room as the two legends that are Arnold & Sylvester. Wow. I’d take that to my grave. 🙏✝️🙏🫡🫡👌🏼🤍🕊️🕊️🕊️

That was a powerful and honest moment!

@Gcbilly70 Stallone is right on.