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Steve Eisman on private equity's software problem: "Private Equity investments in these software companies…they’ll never get out.” “…The public multiples have been cut by more than half. There's nothing you can do about that." Eisman doesn’t think mergers solve this either given the multiples will still remain compressed.

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