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That line is not just a line. It is a measurement. A measurement of commitment. A measurement of sacrifice. A measurement of discipline. A measurement of effort. So the question is not where the line is. The question is simple: How do you measure up to it?

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New ep! For Ross Douthat (@DouthatNYT), phenomena like UFO sightings and the simulation hypothesis don't challenge religious belief—they demonstrate how difficult it is to escape religious questions entirely. His new book makes the case for religious faith in an age of apparent disenchantment. DOUTHAT: I won’t say the deepest level. At the quantum level of reality, it seems, as far as we can see with our perception, that in order to go from contingency to reality, you need an observer. You need measurement. How do you get measurement without consciousness? What does measurement even mean absent consciousness? tylercowen: Electrons bump into each other, something. You don’t need consciousness. If you had a measuring stick in there, that would collapse — DOUTHAT: Who puts the measuring stick in there? COWEN: Humans, but when they’re not watching, the wave function still collapses, right? DOUTHAT: But does it? COWEN: The measuring stick says it does. DOUTHAT: We made the measuring stick. COWEN: We’re not watching. You don’t need subjective consciousness. You need some process of resolution. DOUTHAT: I deny that you can have a measuring stick without a process of consciousness. The measuring stick without a process of consciousness is itself just a ruler. Absent your consciousness, a ruler is a collection of atoms and molecules cut out of a tree with some markings on it. In order for the ruler to be an instrument of measurement, you, Tyler Cowen, have to be perceiving it and be conscious of it. COWEN: I think the ruler suffices. DOUTHAT: No, you can’tsay the ruler suffices.

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