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The "Omnipotence paradox", visualized [🎞️ Zack D. Films]

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Ceticismo.net1 年前

This is actually a false logical dilemma, without any basis. The main problem lies in the violation of the logical concept of non-contradiction. But what does this mean? Well, speaking of logical concepts, in a reasoning the premises cannot be contradictory to each other; otherwise, no logical conclusion will be possible. It's the dilemma between the irresistible force and the immovable obstacle. This logical-philosophical dilemma is well known! What happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable obstacle? Well, the answer does not exist under the light of logical reasoning. If there is an irresistible force, there is no immovable obstacle. If there is an obstacle, there is no such force. This is the logical limitation to the question. It cannot analyze an environment where such duality exists, because such duality is impossible in logical terms. It turns out that omnipotence is a value that goes beyond logic. Omnipotence is a transcendent value. When we say that God can do anything, he can even violate logic and the very laws that define our reality (God, in order to be God, would have to live beyond our poor reality). Logic, as we know it, can only be contained in our reality. Let's play with the concept of “reality”? Well, let's start by defining our reality (we can only define this one and no other, for obvious reasons) as being a set “R”. It turns out that God (supposedly) is the one who created this set R, so he (God) needs to be far beyond this set, and the possibilities delimited by it. Therefore, we can affirm that God CAN (by definition) create a stone so heavy that not even he himself can carry it, but at the same time carry this stone without contradicting the first statement. God would therefore be like a kind of “multidimensional fractal” (he acts in all dimensions and types of realities), carrying out infinite “works” in a timeless dimension (remember that time is also, in theory, his creation and a dimension like the others). Omnipotence, by definition, opposes logic, and for this very reason cannot be judged by it, so the label of being “illogical” is completely devoid of meaning. God cannot be objectively analyzed in that which escapes our reality, as observed. However, religions that are based on the concept of God can. Saying that God is good in one chapter of any book; while, in another chapter, he orders death, hunger and destruction of innocent people, then we can question vigorously. We can inquire about what is happening in the world today, about the concepts of omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresence in contrast to the desolation, abandonment and disregard for what happens to people throughout the world. But, using the BS of the heavy stone or the super-ultra-indestructible sphere is to fall into a logical flaw (in fact, more than one), and it cannot be analyzed in this way.

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Nimerigar_hunter1 年前

A man figured if one second is a million years to God, a penny must be a million dollars so he asked God if he could spare a cent. God replied “yeah just a sec.”

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Roger Dottin1 年前

YES. If the rock is big enough the concept of "lifting" wouldn't apply to it. It would be a planet floating in space, therefore nothing to "lift" it from. So he couldn't lift it, not because he doesn't have the strength, but because it makes no sense.

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Mr.Encouragement1 年前

This one belongs on the rubbish heap of bad philosophy. It only keeps rearing its goofy head because there are still bad philosophers. When you lose something that’s logically incoherent, it’s you that’s failing, not the subject of your inquiry. For instance, there is no such thing as an unmarried bachelor or a round square. When you demand these things as proof of God’s omnipotence, you’re losing a logical impossibility. That such things don’t exist is a problem of your question, not God’s ability. A rock so large it couldn’t be lifted would require that rock to completely fill the universe, and yet it would still need space. The very nature of the universe prohibits a rock that large. It’s your question that’s the problem.

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theirritant.eth1 年前

EZ answer: God defies logic. There is no paradox because logic doesn't apply to omnipotent power - which is a facet of that supreme intelligence governing everything. if you try to understand this through words & concepts you will fail faith comes into play here.

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I am a...1 年前

It's not a paradox when you have to step outside of the realm of logic...

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jardiniernormie1 年前

God can't also make a wyxdysvsgsu or a whsyxjevwhw or a qufjd!!26:(-) Logical contradictions are just meaningless words. they are the same as gibberish.

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Jach1 年前

The solution to this paradox is realizing that logic itself does not apply to a omnipotence God. Logic is something that only makes sense in our reality, which God is above.

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Gandalf1 年前

That's a metaphor. God created such a stone. It's called "free will". Every man can turn away from God, and there is nothing He can do about it.

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مکرم علی1 年前

The "Omnipotence paradox" explores the concept of an all-powerful being's limits, such as the classic question: Can an omnipotent being create a stone so heavy it cannot lift? It’s a fascinating philosophical and logical dilemma!

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