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The UI era is ending. 🪦 For 70 years we designed computer interfaces. Mainframe, CLI, GUI, Touch. But with AI, the interface is disappearing. What will come next? My talk from Mastra's conf this week:

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ehsan profil fotoğrafı
ehsan7 ay önce

Watched the whole talk and appreciate the insights 👏 I still think its an oversimplification. humans need predictability and trust to act with confidence but pure text or language input doesnt really give that. We actually trust each other with language because it comes with tone voice facial expressions body language and shared context. those signals are mostly missing in plain text and current AI. Thats why even if AI can perfectly do a bank transfer in the app most users still wont feel safe doing it. So in my opinion UI will evolve a lot and take very different forms. will appreciate your input on this

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich6 ay önce

@mastra The human bank teller at your local branch can safely do a transfer for you, even if they don't look or say the exact same thing every time. Humans trust humans, and AI is making software more human.

ehsan profil fotoğrafı
ehsan6 ay önce

A human teller isn't perfectly predictable either, but we trust them because they're conscious, have real accountability, empathy, and non-verbal cues. We can't form that same bond with AI yet. That's why I believe UI (visual, predictable, and delightful) will still matter. AI will reshape workflows, but won't replace it.

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich7 ay önce

and congrats @abhiaiyer @calcsam @smthomas3 on their launches this week! more in my interview with Abhi:

Noah N profil fotoğrafı
Noah N7 ay önce

UI will never die. It will evolve of course. Seeing with our eyes is the fastest communication method for humans from the very beginning of times. Other communication and operation methods will soon be popularized but only relevant to AI AGENTS. The question here is: Who the hell is operating?

Adrián Mato 🐙 profil fotoğrafı
Adrián Mato 🐙7 ay önce

@mastra I’d love to challenge this over a coffee!

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich7 ay önce

@mastra

Kent C. Dodds 🐨 profil fotoğrafı
Kent C. Dodds 🐨7 ay önce

Great talk Michael! I completely agree. On that last question (about discoverability being an issue), I think this is why a general-purpose agent is so useful. Because you always just talk to the one agent that is your agent, you say what you want and it just figures it out. It handles the discoverability by itself. I think humans will get used to explaining their ultimate job to be done and expecting the agent to figure it out and asking clarifying questions as needed.

Jamieson O'Reilly profil fotoğrafı
Jamieson O'Reilly7 ay önce

@mastra Is it just me or did you say UI is ending without ackshoooly showing anything that you predict on screen? (i may actually be blind)

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich6 ay önce

@mastra Language will be the primary interface for the AI era. The next software paradigm is agentic and autonomous. Nobody knows exactly what this will look like. That's why it's exciting to build! :)

Jorge Galarza profil fotoğrafı
Jorge Galarza7 ay önce

@mastra Half right, would say: UI isn't dying. It's bifurcating Every product now has two surfaces: The human surface (visual, verifiable, steerable) The agent surface (structured, semantic, API-first, MCP-exposed)

GOBIDASH profil fotoğrafı
GOBIDASH7 ay önce

@mastra Probably a new era of UI is coming

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich7 ay önce

they actually built this and it was a startup called oblong. @kwindla was ceo! originally based on a thesis at the @medialab so the had a unit and i made a couple things for it while doing undergrad research. super cool ideas and fun to prototype but incredibly unpractical for normal tasks

GOBIDASH profil fotoğrafı
GOBIDASH7 ay önce

oh yeah, I remember oblong and their work. I guess people are more visually oriented when it comes to consuming and representing ideas and human hands are really impressive by design.. so once you figure out a really compelling medium like holograms, people would definitely want to use them more because of "hands". I still think spatial computing has a lot of potential which can unlock a new direction for UI, combined with voice.

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Michael Grinich6 ay önce

@mastra @kwindla @medialab Our hands are really good for fine motor control! more accurate, more expressive, fewer calories Using a trackpad doesn't look good in a movie though 🙃 Eyes have higher input bandwidth than ears, so I imagine our devices will stay visual. Perhaps even more so, eg. Vision Pro

GOBIDASH profil fotoğrafı
GOBIDASH6 ay önce

@mastra @kwindla @medialab Yeah I’m referring to interfaces that are more natural, immersive and intuitive. If spatial computing becomes a thing, the UI will be very embedded that it looks as if there’s no UI. Apple’s Liquid Glass is a good step in that direction for now.

Oleg Kislitsyn profil fotoğrafı
Oleg Kislitsyn7 ay önce

@mastra Great talk. But "new UIs operate on text" because it's the only level they can operate well, not because it's the best one. People don't just use voice – they see images with their eyes, they sense objects by touching. Generation is great, but you wouldn't always want that

dex profil fotoğrafı
dex7 ay önce

@RMB @mastra this is a good ass talk

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich6 ay önce

@RMB @mastra ty!

Saurabh Jain profil fotoğrafı
Saurabh Jain7 ay önce

@mastra UI era will never end till humans remain visual beings. Voice has a role but it cannot replace visual UI fully ever. In real life also we touch and see things. We do not keep talking and listening like a blind person whole day.

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich6 ay önce

@mastra

Igor Os profil fotoğrafı
Igor Os6 ay önce

@mastra Ignore. UI is not disappearing. Unfortunately, neither is stupid hype.

Matt Fogel profil fotoğrafı
Matt Fogel7 ay önce

@mastra Love this. One of the best articulations I've seen of this shift. Especially the agentic AND autonomous piece: text-based prompting on its own is just a new level of abstraction, but combine that with autonomy/proactivity and you have something completely novel.

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich7 ay önce

@mastra 💯

DV ⚡️ profil fotoğrafı
DV ⚡️7 ay önce

@mastra I wrote about this recently. Whatever comes next, will be by definition a paradigm shift:

Călin Dodițoiu profil fotoğrafı
Călin Dodițoiu7 ay önce

@mastra I respectfully disagree. The UI as we know it is changing, not ending. Clicking buttons is still faster than typing or speaking. What changes is how those buttons are displayed, where, and when. What changes is how contextual and intentional UI is becoming. Just my two cents.

Carlos Velasco profil fotoğrafı
Carlos Velasco7 ay önce

Yes, yes, yes. Static UI code will fade away. AI needs a standard way to present visual components, and I think that will look more like microapps. Instead of having thousands of apps in the App Store solving the same problem, AI will assemble and present the right interface as a kind of flavor for each user.

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Alex Booker7 ay önce

@mastra We were so lucky to have you! Inspiring talk

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich7 ay önce

@mastra thank you! 🙏

brett goldstein profil fotoğrafı
brett goldstein7 ay önce

@mastra more interfaces humans have been working with agents for thousands of years and using dashboards and other UIs to do it these are just human agents. now they’re ai

Alex Brod profil fotoğrafı
Alex Brod7 ay önce

@mastra I strongly disagree with this statement. It comes literally week after the internet hates the chat interfaces in popular tools. Isn't that thread an obvious argument that people mostly make visual decisions? The UI era at the beginning of a huge challenge, not ending.

Hila Shmuel profil fotoğrafı
Hila Shmuel7 ay önce

@mastra As long as people see with their eyes UI will not die. We will see tailored made UI per person. Not 1 interface for 100% of the people.

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich6 ay önce

@mastra

ONE ☗ profil fotoğrafı
ONE ☗7 ay önce

A very limited view of what UI is. UI will always be needed for the next decades. Even if tech, AI agents and holograms are omnipresent, people will always want to click somewhere, type somewhere, choose somewhere. Not everything will be automated, CLI-based or Siri-like. (Even if those will likely grow insanely.)

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich6 ay önce

@mastra

ONE ☗ profil fotoğrafı
ONE ☗6 ay önce

@mastra You bet that the primary interaction medium won’t be UI. You might be wrong for a while.

Armando J. Perez-Carreno profil fotoğrafı
Armando J. Perez-Carreno6 ay önce

@mastra @PowerBITips Disposable UIs you called it two months ago on The Web Talk Show podcast!

Peanut Butter Chocolate profil fotoğrafı
Peanut Butter Chocolate7 ay önce

@mastra Tell me you don’t know what UI is without telling me you don’t know what UI is LMFAO Touch is still GUI you interact directly with your finger instead of physicsl input like mouse or keyboard. If you missed this super basic stuff I wonder how idiot like you allowed to talk in con

Jared Erondu profil fotoğrafı
Jared Erondu6 ay önce

@mastra Finally got around to watching this. Love the trip down memory lane + the emphasis on language being the new input.

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich6 ay önce

@mastra 🙏 ty!

Swatantra Sohni profil fotoğrafı
Swatantra Sohni7 ay önce

29 mins of pure gold. more i think of it, Agents has opportunity to massively improve our "Quality of life" What are the actions we don't take - for the things we like - because there is burden of action. -Watch a upcoming theatre show you like - but dont know about. -Take kid to robotics sessions in nearest library that is scduduled for thursday your agent will know it your agent will schedule it your agent will move around meetings to schedule it. Only thing i am missing in presentation- UX- AX Voice - didn't even mentioned once i think. I am hardly typing these days, and voice solutions are getting better very very fast.

Ben Williams profil fotoğrafı
Ben Williams6 ay önce

@mastra Great stuff @grinich - wrote about this last May ( My perspective has evolved a bit since then but think the core is still directionally correct.

Aghiles Lounis profil fotoğrafı
Aghiles Lounis6 ay önce

@mastra Excellent talk! I'm also aligned with this vision

Simon Davies profil fotoğrafı
Simon Davies7 ay önce

@mastra As a UX, CX, UI & FED leader for 20+ years who uses AI daily and builds tools with it... I don't agree. The AI industry wants you to believe this is the direction things are going, the truth is, non generated UI holds much more brand value than dev centered vids like this suggest

Kuestennebel profil fotoğrafı
Kuestennebel6 ay önce

@mastra My users hat chat interfaces, they ask for going back to deterministic forms. They hate dynamic AI plots, as they are looking different every time, they ask for fix templates. They hat speech interfaces, as they are not precise enough

Max Zang profil fotoğrafı
Max Zang7 ay önce

@mastra 🎯

Mykola Kondratiuk profil fotoğrafı
Mykola Kondratiuk7 ay önce

@mastra nah. interface isn't disappearing - it's becoming language. bad prompt design = broken UX. same design problem, different surface.

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich6 ay önce

@mastra i said this in the talk:

Mykola Kondratiuk profil fotoğrafı
Mykola Kondratiuk6 ay önce

@mastra fair lol. link to the full talk anywhere?

ShrekOverflow profil fotoğrafı
ShrekOverflow7 ay önce

@mastra Great talk, love the

Ancil Thomas profil fotoğrafı
Ancil Thomas6 ay önce

@mastra When do we get the extended 1 hour talk about agent permissions? 🙂

Michael Grinich profil fotoğrafı
Michael Grinich6 ay önce

@mastra 👀😏

Leandro Meili profil fotoğrafı
Leandro Meili7 ay önce

@mastra Saved for future reference. Your talk compiled many feelings I was having about the future of software. Great job!

Shahid | Design Partner 🦄 profil fotoğrafı
Shahid | Design Partner 🦄6 ay önce

@mastra Thanks for sharing lot of information. Thanks millions get some great insights

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