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The uncomfortable truth about hospitals is this: Patients never really know. They don’t know if the surgery is truly necessary. Or if it’s being recommended because that’s how the system makes money. Sadly today, people don’t go to hospitals expecting care. They go expecting a sales process. The data... show more
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Please share the study which showed 40% of surgeries were unnecessary.
Without all this 'sales' trouble, you took subscription money from me, and never bothered to do a thing about it. How are you different?
@varundubey if a doctor makes me stay extra and I'm not billed anymore for it, isn't there an unsaid pressure for a doctor to discharge me early?
Only true if the doctor is being measured on review. Our doctors don’t have any such targets or goals or bad incentives. If you leave doctors alone they will always always always do what is best for patients.
Might be too soon to ask, but when are you planning on expanding to more centres across Bangalore? (I’m curious in general, but I would also like to bring my mother in sometime and she’s not going to trek all the way from Yelahanka to Koramangala, unfortunately.)
We're on it man. trying to scale up fast. but also need to make sure we can deliver the experience and quality customers deserve, so some balance. Should have 2 more live this year in BLR
This is absolute fear mongering and new business model to charge customers just the same egg in new platter
basic google search will help you overcome this cynicism.
The entire problem you have described is the result of management/administrative reasons nothing related to doctors or their professionalism , the new plan you propose is just another of such schema . Pressing the doctors to generate money from patients and blaming doctors
Which part of this video is talking about doctors. I could not agree more with you. The hospital systems are the problem. Please go see any of my other podcasts where I have explained with extreme detail how doctors are not the issue and are as stuck in this system as the patient.
Such a great initiative. Just wanna be a part of superhealth community in the future
Hi @theliverdoc @Jasonphilip8 @DrAkhilX, I just wanted an expert opinion on this: 1. Are 40% of all surgeries not required? 2. If doctors today are in fact operating on commission, then this model actually seems beneficial for humanity as a whole. Am I missing something?
fear mongering holier than thou
Please do NOT twist or misquote the data. 95% of 66.8% surgeries conducted in the private sector. Feeding off people's fear to drive sales?
The system work as it does because the supply and demand meet at that equilibrium Great success Mena’s some neta gets jealous of your success and will shut you down, There are 1000 ways to die Do you have a solid long term financial viability plan , would love to go throug
Above is not correct for all type of surgeries. As my self orthopedic surgeon I tell u , from x ray only in trauma cases which is major problem to public, Patient it's self knows this type of fracture require surgery . U can't write article for all speciality without homework
You need the OYO model. Most doctors lack at administration because it makes one lose track of treatment knowledge and that’s what a doctor doesnt want. Fix the finance and management by franchisee or bring in a software consulting model. Bring this change sir, much needed.
we focus on ensuring doctors only need to spend time an energy on patients and nothing else :)
This is how paid reviews work.. Shafaq Afreen and Afreen shafaq review 5 star.. And random people Azra Ansari and Afreen from Kanpur decide to review on the same day..
So much of expectations from this! If this really gets cracked we have answer to one of the most critical problem statement. Also what about profitability sir? If that’s not achieved not sure how long the honest pricing would go on!
hey @varundubey curious to know the avg experience of doctors at Superhealth?
Sir, when you're closing your business, maybe you didn't learn any lessons after working at Ola Electric ⚡️ #medtwitter #medtech #medx
I wish you success at solving those pain points. How will you balance honest expert advice and affordable pricing with the (obvious) need to show increasing profits?
Great problem statement @varundubey. How do you ensure good quality doctors though? What’s in it for them?
Actually, doctors don't need 'anything in it for them' to do the best job for customers. This is another myth perpetrated by hospitals. doctors ALWAYS want to do what's best for patients, the world just needs to stop getting in their way. That is what we do at Superhealth - doctors focus only and only on what is best for their patients and nothing else.
Not saying they don’t want to do the best at all but it’s human to be enticed to work at a place where they get paid more to do the exact same thing?
Actually doctors are quite poorly paid in hospitals. All the profits and valuation goes to hospitals only. Our doctors have ESOPs.
Fair argument- rooting for you guys !
@RituAilani
You also face the same market incentives as everyone else. Why do you choose to do right by the patients? Why is operating this way a good business model for you? If this is a good business model, what is everyone else missing? Not cynical, just trying to understand.
If the data for unnecessary surgeries is available, have the doctors who prescribed and performed been charged with unethical practices and put behind bars ? These guys are dangerous than the disease itself
Awesome work Varun, i have always wondered how to fix the current sales driven healthcare, you seem to have cracked the code
Sir i have taken VIP pass but when ever want an appointment for Doctor it's not available
This sounds kind of too good to be true. 1. I am keen to hear about your patient outcomes - actual stats. 2. And just for comparison, I would like to benchmark. E g what would it cost to do something commonplace, say a C-section with no comorbidities or complications.
Thank you for starting this. Someone has done something to change it.
@ShashankDixit_x
Respected Varun sir, I hope this is the way to communicate you regarding an issue in Bangalore super healthcare hospital. As Mr. Pradeep (Accounts Manager) has behaved very unprofessionaly, when we ask payment of supplied medications in the month of Oct 25.
It solves all the problems faced by patients on every day basis. A genuine question though - How do patients know that there are no sales target? I know a few hospitals who have fulltime salaried doctors, but they have targets. The VIP pass covers MRIs and scans -pathbreaking👏
Much needed - hope you succeed and scale.
Ready to ride this as a surgeon and owner of the hospital in Gujarat this was the need of time
@Dr_KD_MS Sir, would like your take on this. What do you think of these models in healthcare? will they succeed in long term!
Wishing you all success. And I wish you get billions of dollars to change a common man experience when they visit hospitals. Ek baar koi family member hospital mein admitted ho jaaye..Bhagwaan ke Upar se bhi bharosa mit jaate hai..
Popcorn time...
I wish you the best. I hope you expand in other cities too.
Good that doctors are validating the problems in healthcare system in India and working on the gaps by themselves
![Vallée and the Closed System: Are We Prisoners? 🧠👽 Vallée: "Are We Being Taken Over by a Species from Somewhere in Space That's Vastly More Intelligent Than We Are?" 👽🧠 "..the simulation...was a new concept that I initially rejected." ~Vallée "Is it looking for us to try to interact with it as equals or with parity?" ~Scafish "Nobody says that to Congress, and I think Congress should hear it." ~Vallée If, "it's a closed system, we're like prisoners and something is going to happen to us, and there is very little we can do." ~Vallée Turn the thermostat dial. "If the temperature doesn't change, then I know I'm inside a control system. So, we can do the same thing with UFOs, but we have to react. We have to, number one, acknowledge that it exists, and number two, we have to react to it." ~Vallée ~~~ I've been wanting to share this one for a while... Vallée: "So, he said, the question you have to ask about UFOs is, number one, is it a natural system or an artificial system...control system. And if it is a control system, is it open or closed? In other words, are we being taken over by a species from somewhere in space that's vastly more intelligent than we are?" (I've never heard him even suggest that possibility.) Vallée: "You know, as Dr. Garry P. Nolan says, you know, people who have had ten, you know, scientific revolutions, or a hundred or a thousand, and come here with superior science to do something... And in which case, you know, it's a closed system, we're like prisoners and something is going to happen to us, and there is very little we can do. Or, is it an open system where we can, in fact, communicate with it. And if we can communicate with it, then the question for me as an information scientist is, what are the modalities of the interaction, you know? It's not just can we learn their language? And they say, you know, 'We come in peace to save mankind,' or something. Or 'We will give you the cure for cancer' or something. I don't think it's at that level." (Will we ever be able to get answers to these extremely important questions? If it's an open system, how do we communicate with it? How do we provoke it to react? We know it reacts to anything nuclear but we still don't know why. This is why we need the USG (and other governments) to present evidence that shows the masses this is real and extremely important for our species to investigate. If that evidence exists and is shown, we'll have an easier time getting the world's best minds to join the effort in figuring out the best way to answer these questions. We still may fail but we should at least try.) Vallée: "I think it's a meta-system. It's not a system. And that's my fear...if we can circle back to your earlier question about, you know, about NIDS and about BAASS, what we did for the government and what we did for the Defense Intelligence Agency. Half of the budget was spent developing, you know, a super database. And we don't know where it went. I mean, I'm not cleared to know where it went." (On the contractor (BAASS) side, Bigelow should have all copies of what AAWSAP produced. And on the DIA side, Lacatksi said he put all of the digital files in a specific place that he didn't name. As long as someone didn't delete it all, it should still be there. Vallée has said that the Capella database has about 250,000 cases from around the world.) Vallée: "But that would be a very interesting question, because the people who are getting [the database] are getting raw data, which we have very well organized, all in English. So they have the luxury of, you know, we had five translators from French, English, Portuguese, Russian, you know, everything was translated in a single structure across fourteen databases. "That's what we need to answer the question about the control system, and it's not being done. And we hired a whole team that we had trained to work on it. So to rebuild that will take the next ten or fifteen years. And nobody says that to Congress, and I think Congress should hear it, because it's our money." (As long as names and personal details are scrubbed from that database, there is no reason NOT to release it to the public. This way, we can take it and use AI to help decipher patterns and maybe answer some of these questions. Can Congress help us get access to that database?) Vallée: "When you ask, is it a control system? That's a big question." Peter Scafish Peter Skafish - "You asked, at one point, whether the system is open or closed, and you said, additionally, I believe, if it's open, that it would be possible to communicate back to it. And it sounds to me like that's the key question for you. Is, if you can understand what what the system of symbols is, or the modalities of communication, then you can understand enough to engage in some kind of communication, or at least give some kind of response to show that you understand." Vallée: "Yes." Scafish: "So then the question, and we have a member named Jacqueline, who has asked this. Could the system be stimulating us - provided there is such a system - to interact with it, more as subjects or agents than as something like animals or objects? Is it looking for us to try to interact with it as equals or with parity?" (When people report getting injured or sick from being in close proximity to UAP, it suggests to me that the phenomenon won't go out of its way to avoid affecting us in a negative manner if we get in their its/way (assuming it even knows that close encounters with UAP are not good for humans). Kind of like how we treat lower lifeforms. If we encounter a wild rabbit crossing the road, many of us will do our best to avoid it, but not if it means damaging our car or ourselves in an accident. It may ruin our day if we hit it, but it won't stop us from driving again in the future. Do NHI have bad days if their tech injures us or makes us sick? I have no clue.) Vallée: "Well, what I saw in the notes you gave me, is she was also asking: Is it a control system because we think it is? And that's a very interesting question. Because we react to the UFO phenomenon, or the UAP phenomenon. And, you know, at this point when I think about what I'm going to do next in this research, if I'm given the the opportunity to live a little longer, I'm not going to go back and write any more computer programs. There are better people to do that now, they have the data, and we're in a different phase now. We're in a whole different system. I have the luxury of doing some experiments I wanted to do for a long time." (Would have liked Scafish to ask him: What types of experiments?) Vallée: "So, if you think you are inside the control system, there are things that you can do. Or, if you think you're inside the simulation, you know, which was a new concept that I initially rejected, and then, you know, Ray's (Kurzweil?) work and others have brought it back to the forefront. And we have to ask that at the same time. Can we test it? How would you test it? Well, if, you know, I'm here in my apartment, and the temperature is constant in this apartment. But outside, I can see it's cold, or I can see the sun is out and it's warm, and how come it's constant here? So this would lead me to think that there is a control system, namely a thermostat, that is somewhere. "So I can start looking around the walls, and if I see dial, I can turn it, or I could start a fire and see what happens, see if the temperature changes. If the temperature doesn't change, then I know I'm inside a control system. So, we can do the same thing with UFOs, but we have to react. We have to, number one, acknowledge that it exists, and number two, we have to react to it."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-1999241328388112749/amplify_video_thumb/1999240752300498944/img/-ITml6B_VyoovXQH.jpg)
!["One of the challenging things about the really important stuff in life is that they’re endless battles. If you do a good job focusing today and prioritizing today, if you pick the right thing to focus on, it earns you no bonus points for tomorrow. Tomorrow you show up, and if you spend all that time on YouTube or getting distracted or whatever, that day is gone. Other things are like that, too. Just because you worked out two weeks ago doesn’t mean you don’t need to do it today. Or just because you were a good spouse yesterday, that earns you no bonus points for today. You still need to show up for them. And so I’m trying to get comfortable with the endless nature of those things. A lot of the time we try to resist the endless nature of that stuff. “Oh, I wish it wasn’t that way.” We try to convince ourselves that it’s like a finish line. “If I just do this 21-day cleanse, then I’ll be a healthy person and I won’t have to think about it anymore. If I just buy her something nice for her anniversary, then I can stop worrying about it and I don’t have to [do other things].” No, it’s not like that. It’s endless. As soon as you accept the endless nature, you start looking at it differently. You say, “Okay, it’s not about getting to a particular finish line; it’s about living a daily life that feels sustainable and that I like and that I’m fully engaged in. So it’s about liking my days." James Clear on The Knowledge Project](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2007485420435845613/amplify_video_thumb/2007484938728144896/img/0lC15kUi7XPd90ew.jpg)