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🚨😳 Things get heated between Joe Rogan and Michael Shellenberger when Shellenberger doesn't find anything suspicious with the Epstein death narrative "Why are you dismissing this? Why are you not letting me finish what I'm saying?”

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Joe Rogan and Michael Shellenberger debate the Epstein files, including aspects of cannibalism and IC blackmail ops: Shellenberger: "What weirded me out about the pizza [email], was [Epstein's urologist said] take your erection dysfunction pills... then we'll... get pizza..." "The shrimp [emails], I'm like 95% that means young women, because you just see how they talk about it, and I think I proved it in my piece. There's other ones, where like, the jerky is like cannibalism and whatever, it's like, well, it didn't help that the restaurant's name was Cannibal. But I'm skeptical that's what that was." Rogan: "Well, you would be skeptical unless you were part of some of these fucking bizarre satanic rituals, and then you would go, ohmygod, it's real... "Why wouldn't we think they're talking about that? We don't want to believe it, right? Is that what it is? We don't want to believe that these people, these multimillionaires and billionaires that go to this island and engage in all this crazy shit aren't doing something like child sacrifice or cannibalism?" Shellenberger: "Let's start with the thing that I think what a lot of us thought it was, which was that it was an intelligence community sex blackmail operation, that's what made it, for me, a story... but when you look at it, we don't see that...." Rogan: "[But] we're very limited in the amount of data that we possess. Because we just have emails between him and other people. Inside those emails, we find a lot of creepy shit...." Shellenberger: "I don't see any evidence that [Epstein] was doing much for the intelligence community, if at all." This clip of journalist Michael Shellenberger (Michael Shellenberger) is taken from a conversation with Joe Rogan (Joe Rogan) posted to the PowerfulJRE YouTube channel on March 10, 2026.

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Joe Rogan gets visibly annoyed as guest dismisses all the “f*cking weird sh*t” surrounding Epstein’s death. ROGAN: “It’s f*cking weird. Like, the cameras being down, the guards being asleep.” SHELLENBERGER: “Security guards fall asleep all the time.” ROGAN: “‘Epstein told officers that Tartaglione (cellmate) had tried to kill him and that had been harassing him. Tartaglione claimed he had been asleep and woke up to see Epstein with a string around his neck.’” ROGAN: “Does that make f*cking sense?!” SHELLENBERGER: “But, Joe, he SAYS the guy tried to kill him. And if Epstein… wants to kill [himself], you don’t want a cellmate.” ROGAN: “If you got a guy to go back and finish the job, you shut the cameras off, and you open the cell, and you let this guy kill him.” SHELLENBERGER: “When they shut the cameras off, though?” ROGAN: “It doesn’t matter.” SHELLENBERGER: “It does matter!” ROGAN: “Did you know even the video that’s there has been edited? The one video they show of the outside of the cell, a minute is missing from it. There’s a lot of weird sh*t to it, man.” SHELLENBERGER: “I agree. But… in my view, where the facts lead you is that we don’t know.” ROGAN: “Well, that’s safe. That’s safe. But it is kind of fcking weird that he’s in a cell with a contract killer. Kind of fcking weird that he made a complaint that the contract killer tried to kill him 18 days before [his death].” ROGAN: “So did they remove that guy from his cell? Is that what happened?” SHELLENBERGER: “Yeah. He’s by himself, obviously, the night he killed himself… or was killed.” ROGAN: “Or was killed.” Rogan then reads from a report about another suspicious death tied to the Epstein network. ROGAN: “‘Epstein associate found dead in Paris prison cell after he said he was gonna flip.’ Shocker. Weird. Maybe he got sad, too.” (sarcasm) SHELLENBERGER: “Well, maybe…” JAMIE: “He’s one of the co-conspirators, also.” SHELLENBERGER: “I mean, people kill themselves a lot, you know. Psychopaths also kill themselves a lot.” ROGAN: “Also, people get people killed because they’re gonna flip.” SHELLENBERGER: “It’s possible. We would just need evidence for it.” ROGAN: “Yeah. If you’re gonna kill somebody, you should probably make it so that there’s not a lot of evidence. Right?”

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