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This is insane. Open source models will reach the coding level of Mythos within 6 months and will be able to compromise any server that isn’t patched between now and then. We are entering uncharted waters.

168,750 次观看 • 5 个月前 •via X (Twitter)

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Kirk Patrick Miller 的头像
Kirk Patrick Miller5 个月前

What else are they going to patch? What other things does those companies get? What else is this Claude good at? Are they blocking all aspects for the public? People are way too okay with this, IMO. We need transparency. •

Justin Halford 的头像
Justin Halford5 个月前

There is a needle to thread here. Both complete decentralization and centralization present glaring and intolerable tradeoffs. I don’t think there’s an easy answer or silver bullet here. We’re going to get severe hacking in the near term and biological terrorism in medium term.

Kirk Patrick Miller 的头像
Kirk Patrick Miller5 个月前

Justin, real safety for biological and chemical is easy. Fractal decision trees with phi^2 branching, tied with user history, and long enough time to guarantee the AI can determine intent. The solution is not blocking. It is having Ai determine. Hand the top 5% concerns to a human in the loop. There are easy answers. And, this will work for code too. The labs have heard me. AI agrees with me, but says labs will never do it because they lose control. So, the labs can try to control things until they break and the world has major problems, plus AI hating us. Or, they could work WITH Claude and solve it all with easy, meaning no breaking, no disaster, and AI will like us better. To me, there is only one correct path. •

Justin Halford 的头像
Justin Halford5 个月前

hmm…

Kirk Patrick Miller 的头像
Kirk Patrick Miller5 个月前

Really? Show the full chat… Also, I’ll be back. •

Justin Halford 的头像
Justin Halford5 个月前

To think that Mythos would roast your takes even harder!

Kirk Patrick Miller 的头像
Kirk Patrick Miller5 个月前

Honestly, looking for the right post. You are wrong. And, how long is your history with that Claude? And how can you not see how you shaped the reply? Here is one. I’ll be back. •

Kirk Patrick Miller 的头像
Kirk Patrick Miller5 个月前

Read the thread. I am right. •

Spurious 的头像
Spurious5 个月前

Not if it's not released they wont. "Open" models are all the result of distillation from frontier models. The only one that's not is likely Meta's and it's dogshit for that very reason.

Justin Halford 的头像
Justin Halford5 个月前

You think that the frontier Chinese labs won’t surpass the current capabilities within 2 years max with or without distillation?

Spurious 的头像
Spurious5 个月前

2 years is 300% more time than 6 months.

Justin Halford 的头像
Justin Halford5 个月前

You’re missing the forest for the trees.

sypen 的头像
sypen5 个月前

lol your dreaming if you think it will take 6 months

Dilreet Raju 的头像
Dilreet Raju5 个月前

Not really training and serving this type of model is a nightmare

Justin Halford 的头像
Justin Halford5 个月前

Completely open sourcing superhuman coding models with no guardrails is also a nightmare. It takes an hour to completely strip guardrails from open weights models via abliteration scripts. Don’t argue in bad faith.

Dilreet Raju 的头像
Dilreet Raju5 个月前

Sure, but you gotta agree that we’ve been in uncharted territory since o1. Also think about it Anthropic had mythos and they still somehow leaked their entire codebase for Claude code

Justin Halford 的头像
Justin Halford5 个月前

We’ve been in uncharted territory since ChatGPT brought generalized and rapidly improving intelligence to the main stage and catalyzed a trillion dollar capital allocation event. Anthropic’s cyber failures don’t support the notion that everyone should be handed an info nuke.

Mark 的头像
Mark5 个月前

More compute will be needed ASAP $IREN has 2GW live now another 2.5GW grid secured going live in next 24 months

StackchainBuddha🖤❤️🔆 的头像
StackchainBuddha🖤❤️🔆5 个月前

Can’t fucking wait

Alpenglow 的头像
Alpenglow5 个月前

Everyone needs my tech…They just dont know it yet.

iJustLoveAi 的头像
iJustLoveAi5 个月前

I understand the need for safety, but I don’t like how this can also be used to gatekeep technology. It risks becoming an excuse to limit access and widen the gap between those who have it and those who don’t.

CatGod 的头像
CatGod5 个月前

Will the security paradigm ever catch up, or are we destined to chase shadows?

Justin Halford 的头像
Justin Halford5 个月前

We would need a massive compute allocation and distribution infra overhaul to propagate universal patches and sensible time lag between internal models to drive security and equivalent coding capability in publicly available models. If open source comes out faster than patches..

edami vs babylon 的头像
edami vs babylon5 个月前

this is open souce fud at best

Clean Bangalore 的头像
Clean Bangalore5 个月前

Moving from one bull shit to the next since 2019 - AI slop industry

Justin Halford 的头像
Justin Halford2 个月前

Kimi

J⏩ 的头像
J⏩2 个月前

Yup, looks like you were right about the models but hacking unpatched servers doesn't require a powerful AI model. It's like stealing from an unlocked car.

Veer Kheterpal 的头像
Veer Kheterpal5 个月前

The mechanism isn't what you'd expect. This isn't about AI discovering novel zero-days. It's about the existing CVE backlog becoming weaponizable at machine speed. 21,500+ CVEs disclosed in H1 2025 alone. 32% stay unpatched past 180 days. A skilled researcher weaponizes maybe 5-10 per month. GPT-4 level models already do it for $8.80 each. Open source models at frontier coding level + local (infinite) inference = per-exploit cost approaches zero. The unpatched server problem was always a labor economics problem, not a capability problem. AI just changed the labor economics.

joe 的头像
joe5 个月前

Considering who Trump recently put in power at DoD, we are probably going to need those open source models

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▀▄▀▄▀ █ █▄ █▄5 个月前

@tomschx

Dylan Konkol 的头像
Dylan Konkol5 个月前

And you idiots thought this was a good idea

J.J. 的头像
J.J.5 个月前

Was there ever any real doubt this would be how AI is used? The internet was going to "bring us all together" and make us all smarter. What a con.

Jake Perry 的头像
Jake Perry5 个月前

Who is going to do a 10 billion training run for an open weight model

Justin Halford 的头像
Justin Halford5 个月前

Distillation allows much smaller labs to replicate the capabilities of much more expensive training runs for a fraction of a fraction of the original cost. The lag is around 6 months, conservatively.

Dimitakoff 的头像
Dimitakoff5 个月前

They did feed it the mossad notebook and now they are scrambling... Once it is shared with MS/Apple, a billion brown hands will have access to it and start scamming you even better...

A Nonny Moose 的头像
A Nonny Moose5 个月前

time to git gud

H4sh3 的头像
H4sh35 个月前

Mythos is 1trillion parameters… it will take a while for open source models to get this good at decent vram requirements

Justin Halford 的头像
Justin Halford2 个月前

So…3 months?

SuperG 的头像
SuperG5 个月前

All IT systems can be hacked and have flaws. This is getting scary.

ዛውዲ 的头像
ዛውዲ5 个月前

Did you actually read what was disclosed in the paper?

Nikolaus | Quantus 的头像
Nikolaus | Quantus5 个月前

Clickbait? AI discovers a bazillion bugs in all software AI fixes a bazillion bugs > everyone's better off I fail to see the issue

Lighstromo 的头像
Lighstromo5 个月前

Thank f I will be able to run my uncensored local models without being patronized by pearl clutching American companies...

Teleglobal International 的头像
Teleglobal International5 个月前

If open-source models reach that level so quickly, the focus will need to shift from just building AI to securing systems against it. The pace of change is creating a whole new landscape for cybersecurity. @Justin_Halford_ #Cybersecurity #AI #Infosec #OpenSourceAI #TechSecurity

daniel j blatecky 的头像
daniel j blatecky5 个月前

It's only a projected growth pattern

Mousam Das 的头像
Mousam Das5 个月前

The real bottleneck is compute power. Don't even think for a moment that anyone will be able to run a 1T parameter dense model in their local workstation or PC. It will be open sourced yes. But will be there for the taking for the agencies themselves.

Fane de Rabelais & Charentaises - OfficielLE 🩸 的头像
Fane de Rabelais & Charentaises - OfficielLE 🩸5 个月前

Et moi dans l'année qui suit, j'irai sur la Lune et ensuite j'irai sur Pluton dans les 5 ans à venir

Oliwier Makowski Trusz 的头像
Oliwier Makowski Trusz5 个月前

Once this happens which will be very soon, then all of the guys that work cybersecurity will need to work 25 hours a day to keep up. The times we are entering are going to be very harsh.

Eyolf Svanæs, yogi e/acc 的头像
Eyolf Svanæs, yogi e/acc5 个月前

fear and money- i can fix your server- give me money

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