This issue with thin horizontal cables in a multi-level parking garage still exists on FSD v14.3.12. It thinks the edge of the 6th floor of my parking garage is a road, despite the cables and surroundings. I would love for some reasoning to be implemented so that the car... is aware that it's not at ground level - to be extra cautious. Driving around for a couple seconds in the garage will tell a human that its not ground level. Also, the fact that the car is actively going up floors while on FSD. I wouldn't expect this to be fixed with a point release, hopefully the next major update (v15) addresses this. Tesla Super Intelligence Details below:show more

Dashcam clip:

Details: Navigation is set to go to a grocery store, so it's supposed to find an exit from the garage. It climbs up a couple floors instead of going down to the exit. Standard mode. The correct move at this spot only occurs at night and is shown here:

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Many garages have legitimate exits onto platforms above ground level, so I don't think the factor should consider ground level or not. What it _should_ recognize and consider is supportive ground disappearing ahead

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Yeah

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Interesting case. It can obviously tell its there from the High Fidelity Park Assist view too. Hopefully Tesla can fix this asap!

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Yup. I can see the wires well in the main camera, but I had the fascia camera up in the video, and its nearly impossible to see until you are really close.

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Sure FSD fail, but WTF is with that flimsy barrier? Is there no safety standards for multi-level car parks?

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy On the Australian version of v14.3.5 it also tries to drive through my house gate, which has much thicker vertical bars than those cables. I've seen a clip from a Robotaxi where it identified a chain and didn't drive through it, so I suspect this may be solved in v15.

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy saw one post where it drove or tried to go underneath a railroad crossing. Same principle, and an even bigger object. Like you said, something with a horizontal element.

@drewinnovations @TeslaSI @aelluswamy Dan O’Dowd is 20 shots deep of tequila on this Saturday evening

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy You need a new garage

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Fake. FSD is super intelligence and surely would never make this mistake.

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy I have not found much difference through the 14.3 series….

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Maybe pothole avoidance will solve this? Some of the potholes in my town feel like I fell off a building 😬

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy 14.3.12 is the worst version I've had. Multiple interventions on every drive so far. Frequently in the wrong lane so we miss exits or annoy other drivers.

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Maybe the car is just desperately telling us that cables as walls in parking garages are absurd design. You fight the good fight FSD.

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy I’ve totally given up on FSD figuring out how to navigate a parking garage. It did same loop three times and I had enough.

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy @TeslaBoomerMama this is another example of why I don’t think Bots will take over all jobs and require UBI FSD is amazing but it still has small areas where it struggles. Bots will be the same

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy @Tesla need your attention here

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy @Tesla

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy lol. Still almost driving you off a cliff

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Why haven't they fixed this issue yet?

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy This definitely needs to be fixed. I wonder why it tries to drive through parking spaces. My car will never drive through a parking space. It always goes around them.

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy iTs A bEtTeR dRiVeR tHaN yOu

Did You Inter The Garage Allowing Auto Control? Or did you Put The Vehicle On Auto Control While In The Garage...Because I Don't Think The Vehicle Realizes It's In A Multi-Level Parking Garage.. 🤔🤔🤔It Seems To Be Connecting Street Level And Garage Level As One Flat Level/Surface.. 🤔🤔🤔😲

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Can you try testing with the headlights on? Just for science 😁

この問題はカメラやLidarのような網目状認識センサーにとって非常に根深く難しい問題です。センサーのピクセルより細く写る線は認識が点滅してしまいます。センサーが上手く捉えても、空間認識モデルは解像度がさらに荒いので同様の問題が発生します。 解決にはハード性能の向上、さらに人間が目を凝らすのと同様の空間認識の注視認識の仕組みが必要でしょう。

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy FSD will literally take me UP a parking garage when it’s trying to find the exit like it makes no sense. idk why it hasn’t been fixed yet.

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy It’s crazy to watch the cybercab struggle with this also yet they declare its level 4

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy did you buy the flying version 'rocket'?

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Tough one to handle for sure

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Camera detection of the edge of road / drop off steps would be very helpful, especially when backing up. Some downward steps are not clearly identifiable on the rear view camera

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy It knows that there is something there. My guess is it would stop like it thinks it’s a gate and wait for it to open. It does this at my community gates.

@TeslaSI @aelluswamy Hwd 5 with 96gb of ram is needed as well as a fast ssd for engram and longer support/better edge case handling and full on long context reasoning/some form of per car long term memory for routes i feel that would greatly improve the experience rather than just one model per car