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New episode with Avi sitting down with Andrew Kang on the next mega bubble. The total market cap of all private robotics companies is $200B. XRP is $100B. Pokémon trading cards are $50B. This is going to be a $10 TRILLION industry. We discuss: • VCs are pivoting from software → physical AI • The GPT-3 moment for robotics • Why you can't just hook Claude up to a robot • How Andrew Kang built RoboStrategy ($BOT) • Portfolio: Figure, Apptronik, Standard Bots, Dyna, Dexmate OUT NOW on YouTube & Spotify 👇

1000x

95,242 views • 2 months ago

🚨🇺🇸 WEDBUSH ANALYST: TESLA HITTING $3 TRILLION MARKET CAP BY EARLY 2027 ON ROBOTAXIS AND AUTONOMOUS Wedbush Global Head of Technology Dan Ives predicted Tesla will reach a $2-3 trillion market cap within the next two years, declaring 2026 a "golden chapter" driven by robotaxis, autonomous driving, and Optimus robotics: "When it comes to physical AI, there is nothing better than NVIDIA and Tesla. This is going to be a golden chapter for Tesla. Robo taxis, cyber cabs, volume production, true autonomous. And robotics in terms of Optimus. That's why we're looking at two trillion, ultimately probably three trillion market cap by late 2026 or early 2027." Source: CNBC

🚨🇺🇸 WEDBUSH ANALYST: TESLA HITTING $3 TRILLION MARKET CAP BY EARLY 2027 ON ROBOTAXIS AND AUTONOMOUS Wedbush Global Head of Technology Dan Ives predicted Tesla will reach a $2-3 trillion market cap within the next two years, declaring 2026 a "golden chapter" driven by robotaxis, autonomous driving, and Optimus robotics: "When it comes to physical AI, there is nothing better than NVIDIA and Tesla. This is going to be a golden chapter for Tesla. Robo taxis, cyber cabs, volume production, true autonomous. And robotics in terms of Optimus. That's why we're looking at two trillion, ultimately probably three trillion market cap by late 2026 or early 2027." Source: CNBC

Mario Nawfal

256,715 views • 7 months ago

Tesla is a robotics company. It is a machine that builds machines. All of the work they’re doing on cars translates to the Optimus robot. And if there’s a shortlist of companies that will benefit from an intelligence explosion from AI? Tesla is on that list.

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Mckay Wrigley

84,249 views • 1 year ago

We have to face it. Robots will ultimately have a face. But why? The human face transmits information in a far more rapid manner than any other system. Working face to face with robots are going to require this signal. This is the face from AheafFrom robotics. For robotics companies that do not have human faces, I say best to start now or encourage an after market hobby garage builder face market. This is the way of it.

We have to face it. Robots will ultimately have a face. But why? The human face transmits information in a far more rapid manner than any other system. Working face to face with robots are going to require this signal. This is the face from AheafFrom robotics. For robotics companies that do not have human faces, I say best to start now or encourage an after market hobby garage builder face market. This is the way of it.

Brian Roemmele

27,755 views • 9 months ago

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EllioTrades

332,183 views • 2 months ago

Why Yan Ivnitskiy is bullish on $VVV at ~$800M Yan thinks VVV's market cap is the better measure than FDV "market cap and FDV isn't always made equal... [Venice] is one of those scenarios where market cap is actually probably a better representation of the value. ...so then you're looking at pretty low multiples on that front ...And I could see a world where by the end of the year, the token is deflationary"

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Bankless

39,513 views • 2 months ago

Andrew Kang thinks crypto holders are about to get a brutal reality check on how small Bitcoin really is 😳 "People within the crypto space think Bitcoin's the world and it's a big asset, but SpaceX is now bigger than Bitcoin." "To think that robotics, or at least a few robotics companies, are also gonna be bigger than Bitcoin. I don't think it's too far fetched."

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EllioTrades Clips

101,574 views • 2 months ago

Chris Camillo explains why Pokémon cards might keep going up for decades “I’ve always believed that Pokémon and an IP similar to Pokémon for a collector is where it’s at” “Unlike other collectibles, it’s not set in a period of time where you have a peak where the people that were really into that baseball player or football player hit peak wealth and drive the market up and then the next generation has less of an appreciation for that player, like with sports cards” “I think Pokémon’s fascinating because they reinvent themselves for each generation. So it’s one of these really rare collectibles that has cross-generational demand” “You can make a case that the Pokémon market could stay healthy and continue to drive forward for a very long time” “I’m not saying it will but there’s certainly a thesis there that has data to back that up” “So the Pokémon collectors might not be as crazy as you think they are”

Chris Camillo explains why Pokémon cards might keep going up for decades “I’ve always believed that Pokémon and an IP similar to Pokémon for a collector is where it’s at” “Unlike other collectibles, it’s not set in a period of time where you have a peak where the people that were really into that baseball player or football player hit peak wealth and drive the market up and then the next generation has less of an appreciation for that player, like with sports cards” “I think Pokémon’s fascinating because they reinvent themselves for each generation. So it’s one of these really rare collectibles that has cross-generational demand” “You can make a case that the Pokémon market could stay healthy and continue to drive forward for a very long time” “I’m not saying it will but there’s certainly a thesis there that has data to back that up” “So the Pokémon collectors might not be as crazy as you think they are”

Jack

97,928 views • 2 months ago

Nick crashes out on stream because they kept dumping $RICH tokens "You all are fucking losers if you sell beneath 10million dollar market cap. There is no reason that this thing should not be fucking in a hundred million dollar market cap; out of all the goodwill that I put onto the timeline"

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Fibonacci 🥷

15,167 views • 2 months ago

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JackTheRippler ©️

78,698 views • 1 year ago

TCG expert explains why you should fully AVOID the modern Pokémon market “Do NOT dabble into the modern Pokémon market, they print 100s of thousands of copies of these cards and they are going for thousands of dollars right off the gate” “If you think that is a smart place to put your money I have no words for you other then “if you wanna swing trade it then swing trade it and try to extract as much as you can, but if you think this is a good investment in the short term SELL them all”

TCG expert explains why you should fully AVOID the modern Pokémon market “Do NOT dabble into the modern Pokémon market, they print 100s of thousands of copies of these cards and they are going for thousands of dollars right off the gate” “If you think that is a smart place to put your money I have no words for you other then “if you wanna swing trade it then swing trade it and try to extract as much as you can, but if you think this is a good investment in the short term SELL them all”

Vēnø

27,413 views • 2 months ago

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Mario Nawfal

93,933 views • 1 year ago

This was probably one of my largest misses. Having the opportunity to invest in Figure series A. The video is worth a watch. Robotics is attempting to solve for a 59T problem that is labor. And now it’s actually beginning to scale. Its current market cap is around 200B. How early are we? We’re so early these companies don’t even trade publically yet and the robots don’t exist. It’s like buying bitcoin at $500 and maybe getting to see it run to 50k. There’s a lot of doubt around them as there is with any new tech. This is going to be incredibly obvious in hindsight. Of course it sound crazy when you say some of these companies are going to be trillion dollar companies. I really feel you should put 10-20 hours into some research bc over the next decade. This is likely going to be one of the most explosive opportunities of our lives. I will definitely be talking about this more often and the various companies that are rapidly progressing bc it’s actually something I follow and am extremely excited about.

This was probably one of my largest misses. Having the opportunity to invest in Figure series A. The video is worth a watch. Robotics is attempting to solve for a 59T problem that is labor. And now it’s actually beginning to scale. Its current market cap is around 200B. How early are we? We’re so early these companies don’t even trade publically yet and the robots don’t exist. It’s like buying bitcoin at $500 and maybe getting to see it run to 50k. There’s a lot of doubt around them as there is with any new tech. This is going to be incredibly obvious in hindsight. Of course it sound crazy when you say some of these companies are going to be trillion dollar companies. I really feel you should put 10-20 hours into some research bc over the next decade. This is likely going to be one of the most explosive opportunities of our lives. I will definitely be talking about this more often and the various companies that are rapidly progressing bc it’s actually something I follow and am extremely excited about.

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78,297 views • 1 month ago

So many robotics companies trying to solve everything at once… Last year I talked to Nima Gard, Director of AI at Path Robotics about this… Doing one thing really really well. They went after welding. Today they’re introducing Rove™, which embodies Obsidian™ (Path's physical AI model for manufacturing) on a legged mobile platform. The result is the intelligence to autonomously weld with the mobility to bring the worker to the work. Path Robotics (Columbus, Ohio) has raised more than $300 million in venture capital to build autonomous AI-powered welding cells. I think the tech is pretty impressive and video really cool. Congrats guys! Credit: Path Robotics

So many robotics companies trying to solve everything at once… Last year I talked to Nima Gard, Director of AI at Path Robotics about this… Doing one thing really really well. They went after welding. Today they’re introducing Rove™, which embodies Obsidian™ (Path's physical AI model for manufacturing) on a legged mobile platform. The result is the intelligence to autonomously weld with the mobility to bring the worker to the work. Path Robotics (Columbus, Ohio) has raised more than $300 million in venture capital to build autonomous AI-powered welding cells. I think the tech is pretty impressive and video really cool. Congrats guys! Credit: Path Robotics

Ilir Aliu

23,488 views • 3 months ago

The All-In Crystal Ball The Mag 7 were holding the stock market on their shoulders. Now, that group has cracked and the market is in a free fall. If you've been listening to All-In, you saw this coming. Let's walk through it: 1) Berkshire Sours on Apple: Chamath's Analysis of Buffett's Annual Letter Chamath Palihapitiya on March 8th: "You can tell when (Warren) Buffett has gotten disengaged with a company based on the number of times he mentions it in his annual letter." "I think this 'Buffett Index' is a really important one for Apple, which is, it went from a forever holding to barely getting mentioned." "Unfortunately, it speaks for a very bad next 5-10 years for this company unless they figure something out." 2) The AI Bubble: Massive Spend with No Revenue = Recipe for Disaster Chamath Palihapitiya on May 31st: "If you do not start seeing revenue flow to the bottom line of these companies that are spending $26B/quarter, the market cap of Nvidia is not what the market cap of Nvidia should be." "And all of these other companies are going to get punished for spending this kind of money." "Where are all these newfangled things that we're supposed to see that justifies the $100B of chips spend/year, $200B of energy spend, $100B of all this other stuff?" "And we've seen nothing to show for it except that you can mimic somebody's voice. It doesn't all hang together yet." 3) The Underlying Recession: The Mag 7 Shielded the Market from a Bad Economy… Until They Didn’t Chamath Palihapitiya on July 12th: "I think the bigger question, though, is if we are on the verge of a real contraction in the economy." "Even though the stock market for seven companies is hitting all-time highs, the stock market for every other company that isn't those seven companies have not." "People are unemployed, there is no money, and the question is whether you have some sort of contraction economically that is measured by a recession or not." "People have been tracking the S&P 500 Index versus the equal-weighted index." "And what's interesting is the spread right now is the most extreme since March of 2000 right before dot-com crash"

The All-In Crystal Ball The Mag 7 were holding the stock market on their shoulders. Now, that group has cracked and the market is in a free fall. If you've been listening to All-In, you saw this coming. Let's walk through it: 1) Berkshire Sours on Apple: Chamath's Analysis of Buffett's Annual Letter Chamath Palihapitiya on March 8th: "You can tell when (Warren) Buffett has gotten disengaged with a company based on the number of times he mentions it in his annual letter." "I think this 'Buffett Index' is a really important one for Apple, which is, it went from a forever holding to barely getting mentioned." "Unfortunately, it speaks for a very bad next 5-10 years for this company unless they figure something out." 2) The AI Bubble: Massive Spend with No Revenue = Recipe for Disaster Chamath Palihapitiya on May 31st: "If you do not start seeing revenue flow to the bottom line of these companies that are spending $26B/quarter, the market cap of Nvidia is not what the market cap of Nvidia should be." "And all of these other companies are going to get punished for spending this kind of money." "Where are all these newfangled things that we're supposed to see that justifies the $100B of chips spend/year, $200B of energy spend, $100B of all this other stuff?" "And we've seen nothing to show for it except that you can mimic somebody's voice. It doesn't all hang together yet." 3) The Underlying Recession: The Mag 7 Shielded the Market from a Bad Economy… Until They Didn’t Chamath Palihapitiya on July 12th: "I think the bigger question, though, is if we are on the verge of a real contraction in the economy." "Even though the stock market for seven companies is hitting all-time highs, the stock market for every other company that isn't those seven companies have not." "People are unemployed, there is no money, and the question is whether you have some sort of contraction economically that is measured by a recession or not." "People have been tracking the S&P 500 Index versus the equal-weighted index." "And what's interesting is the spread right now is the most extreme since March of 2000 right before dot-com crash"

The All-In Podcast

516,130 views • 2 years ago

Elon Musk: There are all kinds of NGOs trying to eliminate poverty. But AI and robotics will actually succeed. “People often talk about sort of eliminating poverty and that kind of thing. How long have they been talking about that? There's lots of talk; there are lots of NGOs sort of trying to do these things but really not succeeding. And the evidence speaks for itself. But AI and humanoid robots will actually eliminate poverty. And Tesla won't be the only one that makes them. I think Tesla will pioneer this, but there will be many other companies that make humanoid robots. But there is only basically one way to make everyone wealthy, and that is AI and robotics.” U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum, November 19, 2025

Elon Musk: There are all kinds of NGOs trying to eliminate poverty. But AI and robotics will actually succeed. “People often talk about sort of eliminating poverty and that kind of thing. How long have they been talking about that? There's lots of talk; there are lots of NGOs sort of trying to do these things but really not succeeding. And the evidence speaks for itself. But AI and humanoid robots will actually eliminate poverty. And Tesla won't be the only one that makes them. I think Tesla will pioneer this, but there will be many other companies that make humanoid robots. But there is only basically one way to make everyone wealthy, and that is AI and robotics.” U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum, November 19, 2025

ELON CLIPS

13,858 views • 6 months ago

Threadguy explains why Pokémon gacha companies have one of the greatest business models ever “You have a very finite supply of vintage Pokémon that people want. There's not that many of these cards” “So you get a bunch of these gambling companies to come in and the only moat these gacha companies have is their supply. So they come up with big VC dollars and they buy everything” “They put them in these packs. Somebody spends, reveals a gacha and what do they do? They sell it back to the company -15% and then they spend again” “Almost nobody is actually cashing out, getting the card shipped and letting it hit the market again. Once they're purchased from the gacha companies, these cards never hit the market again” “Gamble, sell back, gamble, sell back, gamble, sell back” “The gacha companies never have to sell inventory because they make 15% on every gamble and sell back. The actual gamblers never let the inventory hit the market because they just sell back”

Threadguy explains why Pokémon gacha companies have one of the greatest business models ever “You have a very finite supply of vintage Pokémon that people want. There's not that many of these cards” “So you get a bunch of these gambling companies to come in and the only moat these gacha companies have is their supply. So they come up with big VC dollars and they buy everything” “They put them in these packs. Somebody spends, reveals a gacha and what do they do? They sell it back to the company -15% and then they spend again” “Almost nobody is actually cashing out, getting the card shipped and letting it hit the market again. Once they're purchased from the gacha companies, these cards never hit the market again” “Gamble, sell back, gamble, sell back, gamble, sell back” “The gacha companies never have to sell inventory because they make 15% on every gamble and sell back. The actual gamblers never let the inventory hit the market because they just sell back”

Jack

361,538 views • 2 months ago

Elon Musk on which company he would invest in if he was a stock investor: “If I had to pick, it would be AI and robotics — even unrelated to me. I think Google is going to be extremely valuable in the future. They’ve laid the groundwork for an immense amount of value creation from an AI standpoint. NVIDIA is obvious at this point. There’s an argument that companies doing AI, robotics, and maybe space flight are going to capture almost all the value. The output of goods and services from AI and robotics will be so high that it will dwarf everything else.” — Via new Interview with Nikhil Kamath

Elon Musk on which company he would invest in if he was a stock investor: “If I had to pick, it would be AI and robotics — even unrelated to me. I think Google is going to be extremely valuable in the future. They’ve laid the groundwork for an immense amount of value creation from an AI standpoint. NVIDIA is obvious at this point. There’s an argument that companies doing AI, robotics, and maybe space flight are going to capture almost all the value. The output of goods and services from AI and robotics will be so high that it will dwarf everything else.” — Via new Interview with Nikhil Kamath

Nic Cruz Patane

702,003 views • 8 months ago

CrashiusClay explains why TON is one of the easiest bets left in crypto and puts a $50B target on it "The biggest problem most blockchains have is zero users. Cardano, cool you have a blockchain and no users. TON has the complete opposite. You have all the users, all the potential, the wallet inside the app, all these ways to integrate and make it not even feel like crypto." "Cardano hit $80B market cap. I think TON has a way brighter future than Cardano ever did, way more users than Cardano ever had or will have, a way better founder than Cardano ever had or will have. Take 30% off Cardano's all time high as a bare case, I'm thinking $50B market cap is easy for TON. It's at $5B right now. That's a 10X, puts it at $20." "And that's not factoring in the billion users Telegram has. So that logical base case of $50B could turn into $100B."

CrashiusClay explains why TON is one of the easiest bets left in crypto and puts a $50B target on it "The biggest problem most blockchains have is zero users. Cardano, cool you have a blockchain and no users. TON has the complete opposite. You have all the users, all the potential, the wallet inside the app, all these ways to integrate and make it not even feel like crypto." "Cardano hit $80B market cap. I think TON has a way brighter future than Cardano ever did, way more users than Cardano ever had or will have, a way better founder than Cardano ever had or will have. Take 30% off Cardano's all time high as a bare case, I'm thinking $50B market cap is easy for TON. It's at $5B right now. That's a 10X, puts it at $20." "And that's not factoring in the billion users Telegram has. So that logical base case of $50B could turn into $100B."

Kai

18,467 views • 2 months ago