Unpopular opinion : Assisted pullups can help build a better back than weighted/body weight pullups alone. Don't be shy of incorporating this in your routine! Using the assisted pullups machines doesn't make you weak. The strongest lifters use it as a 'tool'.

Hehe, lol.

@ghostofemmanuel real, more controlled volume beats ego avoiding a machine because of how it looks

@ghostofemmanuel So true! It's funny how we've embraced machines in all other spheres but are loath to incorporate them in the gym.

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In my current gym it’s not available but a year when I doing in public gym I used it to learn pull ups. I say with this we can do good progress with greater stability and ROM..

Yes! People are commenting this machine is for girls lol. Ego costs progress.

Yes many things people believe as girls subject like training glutes, hips but these are peak human things

Ahem... lat cables

Purists hate this one trick!

Yeah. But we should be open minded about training. Everything is a tool in the end! Nothing makes you weak or strong. They are there to help us 😆

Oh I’m with you all the way

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Get the full stretch at the bottom and full contraction at the top

Yes! Which sometimes isn't possible in the last few reps of weighted/bodyweight pullups.

Yes and it creates great metabolic stress in the muscle which is drivers of growth

Yes 💪🏻

Yes but why is that machine not actually assisting?

To begin with I did body weight reps. Then I added weight for assistance.

When you pull with me. We start warming up bodyweight 3-7 wide 3-7 medium 3-7 close Then a weight of your choice 3-7 3-7 Then the heaviest weight you can pull 1-5 1-5 1-5 Then its body weight again. I’ve never in my life used the assisted pull up machine. It’s for girls

Haha. I'll take the extra gains at the cost of it being a 'girly' movement according to you.

Extra gains? Again I’ve never used the Machine a day in my life Brother. You aren’t getting No Extra Gains that I’m not getting and you don’t pull more weight than me. Stop using the Women’s Equipment 😂 I Pull-Up 260lbs/118kgs I weigh 68kgs

So you mean +50 kgs? You did 1 rep of that?

Sure bro, that’s 2 reps plus 3 and that’s after the program I showed you. So I already did hella pull ups. I don’t know my max because I don’t 1 rep max. It’s gay! 🤭😂 now stop using the assisted pull up machine! You taking equipment away from Women smh 😭

The key is the essentric movement here . Slow. Crazy activation.

Yup. Crazy anabolic 😆

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Wish i had one of these machines (a band isn't safe). I use pulldowns and a few pullups... just trying to avoid ripping a shoulder from its socket.

Yes if it's some old injury or if it hurts then it's probably not worth it. Nothing is worth sacrificing longevity.

I would need to do 30+ reps on that thing to come close to failure. Im sticking with weighted

You start with weighted pullups, then do these. It's a tool to go beyond failure.

If done right, they are forced reps, a built in spotter.

Yup! Going beyond failure as Yates would like to say 😆

Rule 1: Don't be shy about being weak in the gym.

That's true. But let me tell you the strongest guys in the gym are doing this 😆

@VishalMaXz Calisthenics is different. It's difficult to do pullups when you're 150 kgs of pure muscle. These guys can DL 400 kgs lol. But pound for pound they are not as strong as leaner calisthenic guys. They shine in absolute strength.

Podés ser puto pero no podés ser trolo

Lol. Typical gym bro. Ok, stay uninformed.

Déjate de joder, amigo. Mira la pavada que estás haciendo. La técnica como el orto y encima en una máquina de minita(?)

Technique? What's wrong with that. Let's see your pullups, discount Don Quixote 😆

Estás rebotando las piernas contra un banquito, flaco. Mis dominadas? No hice asistidas ni cuando empecé a los 15 años. Mis alumnas hacen ahi. Obviamente con mejor técnica que la tuya.

Haha, sure Martin.

Plus there's nothing in the world quite like when that rubber band slips of your foot in the bottom position of your assisted pullup.

Shoulder can seriously get hurt from the sudden weight transfer 🥹

Not to mention the pain in the, ahem, small joints.

I’ve always been on the fence with assisted pull-ups. Cheating/jumping up and doing a slow controlled eccentric also works wonders. If you do cheat with slow eccentrics for a few weeks, you can go from no reps to a couple reps real fast

But the same can be done with an assisted pullups machine for more benefits and almost no downside.

They have a Cybex assisted pull-up/ dip at my gym. I’m too tall for it so I’m biased. I just do sets of 4 with my 285lb fat azz.

Hehe, fair enough! This machine is a challenge for really tall men.

💯 Single most important machine in the gym.

I'd say there are other great machines as well. But I get what your point 🤝

I do body weight 4 sets of 10-12 depending on day and recovery. If I’m strong enough warming up with 10 I do weighted for sets of 6 I sometimes end doing assisted with -25pounds as a burnout.

Perfect routine. That's intelligent programming. Unlike a lot of men here in the comment section that think this machine is 'girly'. 😆

Good machine if you can’t do real pull-ups

I can get 15+ pullups if I want. That's what the post is about. Keep the lifter ego aside and use it to unlock new growth 😆.

This is bad advice. If you can do 15 pull-ups with good form, you should be doing weighted pull-ups, not a bunch of trash volume on the assisted pull-up. Nothing to do with ego

So I did weighted pullups * 8 (+20 kgs) - 1st working set Body weight pullups * 13 - 2nd working set Third working set with assisted pullups machine. Now I don't do this all the time. Just for 4 weeks. Because adding this volume costs a lot of recovery!

The third set is just trash volume. Better off doing 2 weighted sets then a third set of regular pull-ups to failure

I kind of agree. I'm a 2 set guy as well. But here I include this third assisted pullups set post my weighted/bw pullup sets. Lower lats have grown.

This changed my perspective. I assumed assisted pull-ups took away the work, but they actually seem to help build the movement properly. Sometimes scaling isn't a step back it's how you move forward.

@ojstrongmind Glad that you're viewing this with an open mind. Doing these doesn't mean we don't do bodyweight/weighted pullups. Maybe after your final working set of weighted pullups, incorporate these till brutal failure. The deep stretch is going to be MEGA anabolic 😆

Thanks! That's really helpful. Looking forward to trying it out properly, I may even document the journey here 🙂.

I love pull-ups. I can't wait to be good at them.

Soon 😆 Do them twice a week. Not more.

I agree with you. This alongside assisted dips for the chest, triceps and deltoids.

And we have a lethal combo 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

Ye sir. Trainers need to understand that its about movement patterns and resistance and not number challenges then it all clicks in together!

Yeah. An open mind helps everywhere, including the gym 😁

Whatever assistance you need to get a good 10/12 reps in. I love the movement and start with no assistance just to see how many I can do, not many! How many can you do AP?

Hey Michael! Yes that's the idea 😁 I get about 15 body weight pullups. Then I do these with assistantance.

I literally said the same thing today 😅I don’t know why people don’t realize it.

Yeah. They keep calling it girly lol. Deny yourself excellent gains because of ego! Lol. So smart.

Exactly 🤣🤣

I'm a bigger guy, so will do 6-8 strict form (I tend to like neutral grip) unassisted, then finish off with 4+ assisted to failure.

Neutral grip pullups are great 👌🏻 They recruit the brachialis and that being a stronger muscle as compared to the biceps brachii you can just do more reps. Good for your lats!

Absolutely. Another goated move is to execute them, after pullups. Your lats will burn 🔥

Yes but probably one burner set only weekly. The fatigue dug a hole in my recovery 🥵

Great for truly focusing on the lats

Yeah! Especially the lower lats 😆

Straight leg pull-ups, know folding the legs

The assistance pad is there so you can't straighten legs 😆

I've a shoulder injury reason I was not doing bodyweight pullups or weighted pull ups. But after reading this I can definitely try assisted pull ups.Thanks brodie

Yes, excellent for injury rehab 😆. How did the injury happen? You're welcome!

accident bro

Oh. Hope it gets 100% better soon.

I don't have a assisted pull machine at home so I use my different color bands.

Works 👍🏻Solid substitute.

The best backs are built with smart progression

tomorrow is back day for me ....will do it

@AFitTrader

Ok let me know when it starts working lol

Been working very well for years mate.

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