V satisfying when Lord True rinses spineless Lib Dems for voting with Labour to help Andy Burnham evade all parliamentary scrutiny over his plans for government I wonder if this grubbiness may help explain why they've been awarded unexpectedly high numbers of peerages recently

@AllisonPearson I can’t remember the last time Ed Davey scrutinised the government. He’s more like a Labour poodle. His peers just toe the party line.

This affinity with socialism runs deep in LibDem councils and peers also. Older LibDem councillors would have been Liberal Party members which was hard left. It no surprise Rt Hon Mr Davy clinging on sensing a coalition after next election.

It’s what the LibDems always do. They are the glue of the uniparty. They don’t want power, they just want their careers in politics to go on and on. And they do.

Long term effects of a short term decision. Governments treat the Lords like the BBC, like it’s a problem to push down the road despite both veering wildly from what they are designed to do and achieve. Weak, idealess politicians have for decades have done this and it is bad for our democracy. Make some decisions, ask the people and get on with it

Madeline, I'm sure this is nothing but convenient conjecture. Oh no, wait a minute, the evidence is compelling.

Time to directly elect the Lords or an

If they were trying to “evade all parliamentary scrutiny”, they would hardly have voted against this motion *because a more thorough properly-formulated debate is already scheduled for September*, would they? But you didn’t actually bother to check, did you?

Lord Purvis 'put him back in his box', magnificently. 😁👏

No he didn't, he spent four minutes wanging on about a letter. Ludicrous and spineless man

Blimey... 😁

@michaelgove Lib Dems acting as usual in their own interest and virtue.

How is that possible

Preparing the way for the obvious anti-Reform alliance!

Labour-Lite.

I am very confused as to why the Liberal supposed Democrats would reject the chance to have a PM who’s faced no scrutiny and was coronated face parliament.

5 new peers is hardly the most generous largesse

They keep getting more than Tories despite being already over represented in lords and having fewer seats. They also keep inexplicably supporting the government in the lords on legislation they have no obvious reason to back. It’s not an unreasonable question

@gwynedd8364 They are over represented in the Commons too having far more concentrated votes than eg Reform who got more votes but only 5 seats vs 72 LD.

@gwynedd8364 Yes, and it is very unfair that Reform still don't have a single peer

@davidburbage Hardly. The Greens had to wait nine years between their first MP and their first life peerage.

Test

Charlotte Owen, Michelle Moyne, Lebedev I don't think that the conservatives can lecture anyone about grubby peerages.

@KemiBadenoch I think they’ve agreed a Proportional representation voting stitch up. Neither of them seem to care about recent referendum results.

Unelected ... No democracy in the UK