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Vance on Canada tariffs Asked how the White House will ease the pain if the Canada fight drags on, Vance skipped mitigation. Goal is “fairness.” His claim: Canada long slapped extraordinary restrictions on US workers. Canadian butter entered the US with little/no tariff; US farm goods into Canada can...

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Tom Svor 5 Tagen

Over quota? No, American producers were not to able to sell to consumers, only to big companies like Soputo who refused to buy. The quota was a joke. Those quotas were never met. Trade never took place

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PeterGillvor 5 Tagen

Much misinformation there. US suppliers are not allowed to sell into the Canadian retail market, they can only sell to wholesalers who must import the product. If Agropur, Saputo et al don’t buy, US producers can’t go around them.

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Michael Andrevor 5 Tagen

And that is why the us doesn't approach it's limits on dairy. It starts to become too egregious to even bother shipping dairy past the point of being tarriffed.

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How does this work?vor 5 Tagen

Of course they dont fill quotas. Any efforts developing the Canadian market is a waste. Once they hit the quota, they become massively uncompetitive, therefore, it’s essentially a closed market. If “they never meet their quota”, then drop it tomorrow.

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Bob Bradfordvor 5 Tagen

US companies never exceed the quotas because they do not want to be tariffed.

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Dave3vor 5 Tagen

AND - the USA does the same thing for - 1.Sugar (raw & refined, plus sugar‑containing products) 2.Dairy products (cheese, butter, milk powders, etc.) 3.Beef (fresh/frozen) 4.Cotton 5.Tobacco (for cigarettes) Now - please stop the lies…

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James Finkbeinervor 5 Tagen

The dairy farmers in Wisconsin are not very happy with Trump/Vance.

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Sajsha Prince 🇨🇦🎗️vor 5 Tagen

I remember Chrystia Freeland negotiating Europe/ Canada Trade Deal 2017 and then Canada’s DAIRY industry DID everything to make this deal never fully flourished Yet, the same people in power are still complaining about Trump and against Trump

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Bogiemanvor 5 Tagen

It never fails to amaze me how the USA are baffled that Canada just wouldn’t roll over and in fact had the nerve to retaliate

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Andrew Onymousvor 5 Tagen

Edited for brevity: “TRQs work to exclude American dairy”. And Canada STILL cheated to get even further UNDER quota. The CDN government violates the USMCA to actively stops the US from meeting quota

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Robbie J Bvor 5 Tagen

He never mentions the US pretty much does the same with their sugar and corn industry. Propaganda is yu repeat something over and over again ppl will eventually believe it

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Cecile Shawvor 5 Tagen

This is the core dairy problem: On the U.S. side, Canadian dairy that comes in under quota can be sold through normal commercial channels, including retailers. There isn’t a rule that says only U.S. processors may hold the import rights. On the Canadian side, U.S. dairy under the USMCA cheese quota generally CANNOT go straight to grocery stores. Most of the duty-free import permits are given to Canadian processors & distributors. Retailers are largely shut out of that quota, so a U.S. producer can’t just sell to Loblaws or Walmart Canada the way an EU cheese maker can under CETA. The real split is who is allowed to bring the product in & put it on the shelf.

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Fred Upvor 5 Tagen

The US never hits the quota limit because Loblaws and Sobeys know the limit and do not exceed it so they don’t pay 298% tariff on US dairy. It’s not rocket science.

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ELCEEvor 5 Tagen

Liar Liar Liar…why does nobody correct these guys!!???

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steelersx6🇨🇦🇮🇱vor 5 Tagen

All lies

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PFrostvor 5 Tagen

No one goes over quota because then goods are impossible to sell. Grocery in particular depends on volume to make money, so the biggest players are the most profitable. Quotas guarantee you will never get big, so why waste the effort to develop the market?

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Jeff Harrisvor 5 Tagen

If the 200 to 300% rates don’t come into play, why do we need them in the first place? 🤔

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SanityNowvor 5 Tagen

This is true however, the gist is that when it comes to dairy, Canada does not have free and fair trade, and this is true also.

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Nasty Gvor 5 Tagen

Its more about who gets Import Licenses. Retailers only get about 5% of those. Major producers like Saputo and Lactalis get mostly all the permits to import. The US want the same rules we have for Europe, as retailers are free to import dairy from across the pond

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Digopakvor 5 Tagen

What about the Chinese stuff coming in and then rerouted to the US? Can you address that claim, please?

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TinTinvor 5 Tagen

Trade deal will remain difficult as these two countries can’t even agree on the facts. No solutions to be had if you can’t agree on basic facts.

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Pawan Jain 🇨🇦 🌻vor 5 Tagen

The US taxpayer heavily subsidizes dairy, and the US also has tariff rate quotas. You'll hear none of this from Vance or Trump. Canada just supports dairy differently, by charging consumers more. Neither country has a completely free market in dairy. Epic dishonesty from Vance.

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Peace Frogvor 5 Tagen

Fact check: USA has TRQ's on dairy, too. As agreed to in USMCA.

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juicyrockvor 5 Tagen

The quotas are given to Canadian dairy producers and then they sit in the qoatas. This is literally what New Zealand had been complaining about for years

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Charles Beaudry 🇨🇦 🇺🇲 🇻🇦vor 5 Tagen

It's a bit more complicated than that. It's not as simple as "US dairy never meets the USMCA quotas." Most of the TRQs are given to Canadian companies importing "US milk" from their own US subsidiaries and locking out US companies from competing.

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Third Most Albertan Man in the Worldvor 5 Tagen

You are spewing bullshit now. There is zero chance milk prices in Canada would be double what they are in America without trade barriers. None. Canadians in border towns cross over just to grocery shop (and get gas)! That is not imaginary. It is a function of trade barriers.

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Gus McCrae ….. ⚔️⚓️vor 5 Tagen

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VP Vance was asked about the ongoing tariff negotiations with Canada, and what he’d say to Maine businesses and consumers worried about the impact of those tariffs. His answer was 🔥🔥🔥 "Well, first of all, I’d say we’re very mindful of the fact that Maine is a border state with Canada. There’s a lot of cross-border transaction between Maine and Canada. And what we’re trying to do here is just make sure that Maine actually gets a fair deal. If you look at the amount of tariffs that have been applied not just on Maine but on a lot of our northern states that are doing cross-border trade with Canada, Canada and China have been the two worst countries when it comes to trade policy anywhere in the world. What a shame that is. China, you, of course, expect. They’re our biggest economic competitor. I would expect that from China. I would not expect that from Canada. We have to remember, Canada is a state—sorry, Freudian slip. That was actually an accident. 🤣🤣🤣 Canada is a country that has underinvested in its military that quite literally would get invaded by a foreign country were it not for the umbrella of protection provided by the United States of America. And so how does Canada actually respond to that? By treating the people of Maine fairly? No. They apply ridiculous tariffs and other non-tariff duties on Maine products coming into Canada, and they don’t expect Maine or anybody else to fight back. We’re sick of that. We are actually going to fight back against unfair trade practices whether it’s coming from China or Canada. Now, let me just give you a very, very simple and concrete example. If you buy dairy, cheese, butter, milk that comes from Canada into Maine, you probably are buying a product that has 0% tariffs on it. And by the way, if Canada applied 0%, that would be one thing. But you know, if a Maine farmer sends dairy products into Canada, they could be paying as much as a 250% tariff. Now, how is it fair to the farmers of Maine that they pay 250% when the Canadian farmers pay nothing? That unfairness is something that we just have to fix. And here’s what happened with the most recent round of negotiations. They’re still ongoing, and I want to be respectful of the process. But we know that Canada allows itself to be used as a backdoor for Chinese goods. They treat Chinese goods more fairly than they do the goods that come from the people of Maine. It’s insanity. And what we’ve said to Canada is stop it. Apply a basic principle of fairness to the trade that you’re doing between North Dakota and Canada, between Maine and Canada. And what happened at the very end is they came in with a bunch of unreasonable last-minute demands. I frankly thought we had a deal. I think that we should have a deal. But I think that we need to send a message loud and clear to the Prime Minister of Canada. STOP taking advantage of the people of Maine. Stop taking advantage of America. It’s over. We expect fairness in our trade policy." WELL SAID!
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VP Vance was asked about the ongoing tariff negotiations with Canada, and what he’d say to Maine businesses and consumers worried about the impact of those tariffs. His answer was 🔥🔥🔥 "Well, first of all, I’d say we’re very mindful of the fact that Maine is a border state with Canada. There’s a lot of cross-border transaction between Maine and Canada. And what we’re trying to do here is just make sure that Maine actually gets a fair deal. If you look at the amount of tariffs that have been applied not just on Maine but on a lot of our northern states that are doing cross-border trade with Canada, Canada and China have been the two worst countries when it comes to trade policy anywhere in the world. What a shame that is. China, you, of course, expect. They’re our biggest economic competitor. I would expect that from China. I would not expect that from Canada. We have to remember, Canada is a state—sorry, Freudian slip. That was actually an accident. 🤣🤣🤣 Canada is a country that has underinvested in its military that quite literally would get invaded by a foreign country were it not for the umbrella of protection provided by the United States of America. And so how does Canada actually respond to that? By treating the people of Maine fairly? No. They apply ridiculous tariffs and other non-tariff duties on Maine products coming into Canada, and they don’t expect Maine or anybody else to fight back. We’re sick of that. We are actually going to fight back against unfair trade practices whether it’s coming from China or Canada. Now, let me just give you a very, very simple and concrete example. If you buy dairy, cheese, butter, milk that comes from Canada into Maine, you probably are buying a product that has 0% tariffs on it. And by the way, if Canada applied 0%, that would be one thing. But you know, if a Maine farmer sends dairy products into Canada, they could be paying as much as a 250% tariff. Now, how is it fair to the farmers of Maine that they pay 250% when the Canadian farmers pay nothing? That unfairness is something that we just have to fix. And here’s what happened with the most recent round of negotiations. They’re still ongoing, and I want to be respectful of the process. But we know that Canada allows itself to be used as a backdoor for Chinese goods. They treat Chinese goods more fairly than they do the goods that come from the people of Maine. It’s insanity. And what we’ve said to Canada is stop it. Apply a basic principle of fairness to the trade that you’re doing between North Dakota and Canada, between Maine and Canada. And what happened at the very end is they came in with a bunch of unreasonable last-minute demands. I frankly thought we had a deal. I think that we should have a deal. But I think that we need to send a message loud and clear to the Prime Minister of Canada. STOP taking advantage of the people of Maine. Stop taking advantage of America. It’s over. We expect fairness in our trade policy." WELL SAID!

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