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VGC players, please help us understand how Outrage can fail here. Garchomp is Focus Sashed. Eelektross is obvi a Mega. No protect on either this turn. Their Garchomp's Outrage failed. Didn't say missed. Said failed. We're very confused! #pokemonchampions

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Team Rocket Elitevor 2 Monaten

I never found the root cause but I did find a set up that caused Outrage to fail (not sure if patched since April): My best guess is due to a time out late in a set.

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

This fits 100%. They were playing super slow and there is a chance they timed out into an auto select of Outrage. Wondering if they dc'ed

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Greninja’s Sensaivor 2 Monaten

This has to be a bug I have never seen that, do you have the extended clip to see when you select the move? Would love to see the entire turn/ battle

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

It was the opposing garchomp so I don't have their POV. I do have the entire battle recorded from my end but the info doesn't change so I clipped it down to save time

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Nathanial Coutolopilousvor 2 Monaten

miss-clicked and targeted their Gyarados. Outrage can’t target its partner Pokemon

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asta春∞vor 2 Monaten

@DaWoblefet ?

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sinrinvor 2 Monaten

I normally make fun of people complaining about bugs but I think this legitimately might be a bug lol

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

I feel blessed 😂🖤

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Teslobovor 2 Monaten

This must be a bug, there's nothing on the field that could cause outrage to fail like that. Because outrage selects its target randomly the game makes you target yourself on the target select window, so maybe something went wrong and garchomp actually tried to target itself???

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

That's the only thing I can think of too. Tbh they were playing SLOW so I'm wondering if they d/ced and the bot that takes over can't use outrage due to some bug etc? Very weird niche situation.

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Klaw🏳️‍🌈#Primarina4Unite 🔞vor 2 Monaten

@WolfeyGlick

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Javier Ordóñez.vor 2 Monaten

I think I'd need to analyse the entire Battle to figure out because none of the data above helps me figure out what really happened xd

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

What other info can I provide to help? I have the whole vod but can't think of anything else that would matter besides the current turn's events + held item info

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Javier Ordóñez.vor 2 Monaten

The thing is... Was garchomp confused?

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Javier Ordóñez.vor 2 Monaten

In theory in older games, you used outrage and 2-3 turns later, you get confused. When confused, you can attack with outrage again if you want, but obviously if you get confused, you hit yourself (which didn't happen).

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Javier Ordóñez.vor 2 Monaten

I don't know if he spammed outrage a lot in the match neither

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

Not used before this turn, has Leftovers as a held item

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Shuei - QuickDrawvor 2 Monaten

Outrage must have been illegal at the time, but without full context none can tell.

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

No disabled moves, garchomp had leftovers so no choice scarf either. I'm confusion 😭

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Actual trashvor 2 Monaten

Only thing I can think of is someone tricked him a choice scarf lmao

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

Bros running lefties and scarf it's over for me 😭

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ToastyZeldavor 2 Monaten

What does VGC mean?

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

Video game championship In this case specifically pokemon related

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DAGuitovor 2 Monaten

Could be a brigth powder on the other side and the bug that send that message

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

Only if that's gyarados' item and yeah that'd be a bug

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箇駄目🌟まりのvor 2 Monaten

Champions has a lot of bugs, typical of ILCA I guess considering they kept all the Diamond and Pearl bugs in BDSP

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

Is it weird that I loved BDSP more because of the bugs? 😂

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SykeKo19vor 2 Monaten

I possibly have an answer, but it's kinda complicated so here's the lite version: The move failed because the opponent timed out and the Garchomp targeted ITSELF with the Outrage! I'll put an explanation down below as replies

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TimVB 🔜🎮🇩🇪🇨🇵vor 2 Monaten

I think I might have seen it fail just once in all those years of playing besides this clip tbh. 😳 Just a few times it has missed my Pokémon as a target. 😅

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

It was such a weird move to see in a champions battle in the current meta, then to see it fail?! Definitely needed a moment to recalibrate the brain cell

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Mr. Jayvor 2 Monaten

It’s a weird interaction between making the garchomp flinch. But anytime outrage is disrupted it’ll say failed

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

It was the first outrage of the match so I'm extremely confused 😭

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Eevee Steveyvor 2 Monaten

I’ve seen weird bugs in this game like rotom heat not being weak to water moves

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

Every time I've seen something like that it's always Zoroark but I'd believe bugs too tbh

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Eevee Steveyvor 2 Monaten

It might have been but I don’t remember. It was an issue I was having a couple times back when the game first launched

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addemslitvor 2 Monaten

I’m reading the move descriptions, and in Legends AZ, it says Outrage goes on cooldown, but doesn’t confuse the user now.

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Matt Sattelvor 2 Monaten

I had a similar issue where I used yawn and it just failed. I was very confused

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

Weeeeird. Like, it would be one thing if it said missed or something else. But failed unless something else was taking sleep's spot (another status) is strange.

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fã clube preta praiana 🌟vor 2 Monaten

Tomei outspeed de um Garchomp pra minha salazzle que ainda ganhou um choice scarf de um rotom antes lol

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ゆっぴー/Yuppyvor 2 Monaten

These are all I could find. I cannot see how long you waited to enter this turn but maybe the opponent timed-out the move selection. A bug. 「ダブルで時間切れで技が選ばれた時、げきりんだったが「うまく決まらなかった」となる」

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Attica 🖤✨vor 2 Monaten

They were playing VERY slow so maybe it was a time out! Weird that that would make Outrage fail though. Strange bug. Thank you for the info! 🖤

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